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To: Skywatcher who wrote (47128)	10/22/2004 3:43:39 AM
From: IQBAL LATIF	Respond to of 50167

That is quite delusional thinking; the 'hate' is not about insecure world it is about 'rage of impotence' as they see their inability to impose their ways on entire world. A renaissance has to begin and it has, self learning of those who were left behind, a speedy lesson that if you need to exist in the world, Europe or US you need to amend your behaviours, it is for this reason that Mush, Erdogan and Abdullah are all part of that change. If they hate US so much why it so that all the major Muslim leadership is allied with Bush and why Karzai a US puppet, as far as the liberal left logic goes, get 60 percent of popular vote? Mubarak who once said that by taken on Osama we have created thousands of Osama in relationship to Iraq may have forgotten what happened to Sadat after signing of the peace treaty with Israel. Islambouli brigade and Akhwan has been trying to dislodge any liberal regime from donkey number of years and this whole logic that post 911 things have changed for worse is nonsense, before that n one use to care if 300 or four hindered marines use to get killed or embassies were bombed US would quietly retreat, this is the first time US has gone after the core element, the resolve is hated, and liberal left has helped the radical cause by providing them with moral equivalence and reasoning.;

To: Skywatcher who wrote (47128)	10/22/2004 8:44:07 AM
From: Neil H	Respond to of 50167

CC at this point the US is HATED by muslims making for a completely INSECURE world Your understanding of the reality of the situation is quite lacking. Actually most Muslims like the US. They admire the freedoms and lifestyles that it brings to its many blessed citizens. They want the same for their own lives (but altered to their own culture). What many may not like is the policies of the US govt. This dislike is mainly (at least in the ME) related to the Israeli/Palestinian conflict and their frustrations of their own inability to have a government like ours. The insecurity in this world is not brought about by the US. It is brought about by the Islamists that see their mission as expanding their version of Islam and control worldwide. Appeasement in this war against Al Qaeda and terror will only bring further aggressive behaviour by our enemies. They see appeasement as weakness, and only understand strength. They did not love us more for rescuing the Bosnian Muslims in the Balkins from the Serbs. Regards Neil

To: Skywatcher who wrote (47128)	10/22/2004 6:04:38 PM
From: IQBAL LATIF	Respond to of 50167

Sistani the grand Ayatollah of Iraq announced a fatwa in today’s Friday sermon in Najaf whereby participation in the forthcoming elections In Jan has been declared as national and religious duty. Iraqi 65 percent Shiite population will finally now have the chance to free themselves from chains of baathists, this fatwa is as important as his fatwa of not opposing the invasion. In history of nation few years of turmoil or months of illegitimate anarchy organised by bunch of terrorists is a small price if majority benefits from waft of freedom, today OBL/ Zarqavi shall be very sad men. The role of Sadr has already been marginalised in the religious realm, this fatwa came from Sistani and that what matters the marjaiyya, an eye opener for Iranian Qom also. Sistani believes in political quietism as opposed to Iranian activism, this is a major fatwa and will now usher Iraq into new elections, the minority ex baathists will try their best to derail the process, but freedom will win. This is another great victory for people who were chained. By the way this is like Najaf - 2 Qom - 0 These are how things are unfolding in Iraqi politics.; Najaf 1 - Qom 0 Schism within contemporary Shi'ism iranian.com

To: Skywatcher who wrote (47128)	10/24/2004 9:06:10 AM
From: IQBAL LATIF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 50167

Karzai shows majority after 75pc vote counted timely answer by Afghan muslims to your comments <at this point the US is HATED by muslims making for a completely INSECURE world-CC > let em have IT!..... KABUL, Oct 23: Hamid Karzai maintained his clear majority in the Afghan presidential elections as the vote count passed 75 per cent on Saturday, according to the official poll website. At 11:50am, the US-backed Pashtun leader had won 3,426,845 votes, or 54.5 per cent, of the 77.5 per cent of total ballots counted. His nearest rival, former education minister and ethnic Tajik Yunus Qanooni, had 17.3 per cent, with Uzbek warlord Abdul Rashid Dostam in third place on 10.9 per cent. Hazara warlord Mohammad Mohaqiq was in fourth place with 10.5 per cent, followed by French-speaking Tajik Abdul Latif Pedram with 1.3 per cent. The only female candidate, Masooda Jalal, was in sixth place with 70,695 votes, or 1.1 per cent. Mr Karzai needs at least 50 per cent of the estimated eight million votes to be elected to the position he has held since shortly after the fall of the Taliban regime in late 2001. A clear mathematical lead is expected within days. The October 9 elections, which had been threatened by insurgents, were carried out without feared widespread violence. But allegations of voting irregularities marred the polls with all 18 presidential candidates making formal complaints. Three foreign independent experts are assessing these complaints and no results will be final until their report is issued.-AFP