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To: Bruce L who wrote (148653)	10/22/2004 1:25:38 PM
From: cnyndwllr	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Bruce, re: "I was referring to your "romantic" image of 'noble and brave' Vietcong holding 'true through death' to their "idea" of a united (communist) Vietnam. Hogwash IMO.. I never thought that, said that or implied that. What I said was that we were facing foes that were willing to die for big ideas and that killing some of them would not kill the ideas. I suspect that the "ideas" were varied. There were surely some who were captivated by "communism," others who were captivated by "nationalism," and some who just hated us because we were the "foreigners" with guns who'd harmed their family and friends. Is that "apples and oranges," or just fruit? Regarding; In 1975, the South Vietnamese government was not perfect; but it was far from the worst government in the world, and the South Vietnamese People clearly preferred it to the harsh Spartan-style regime of North Vietnam. How do you know that? Is that what we were told? As for me, I think a better indication is that although we provided an amazing amount of arms, training, supplies and support for the South Vietnamese, including sending over 50,000 men to die over there, the South could not find the courage or the means to fight an effective defensive war against a much more poorly armed North Vietnam. How do you explain that fact?