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To: Bruce L who wrote (148761)	10/22/2004 8:49:57 PM
From: cnyndwllr	Respond to of 281500

Bruce, re: You are the consummate "armchair theorist", but what support do you have for the many allegations contained in this statement? <<No matter how you turn it, it appears that the "enemy" in Vietnam was destined to win and our "protectorate South Vietnamese government" was destined to fall under the weight of too little popular support and too little commitment. >> .....So where is your evidence? I guess I'll have to rely in part upon the poster who wrote: From Bruce L: So the South Vietnamese Army got used to the Americans 'holding their hands. This was a big part of their problem. As to why the South Vietnamese Army in 1974 -1975 could not find "the courage or the means" to put up an effective defense against the NVA, the simple answer (AGAIN) is that the NVA were better fighters than those from the South; just as the Germans were better fighters than the French. Your observation that the NVA were numerically inferior to the South Vietnamese is just FLAT WRONG. When the NVA broke through at Pleiku, they were lead by a regiment of HEAVY Tanks - supplied by the USSR. The SVA had nothing to match them. But even if the SVA was superior in numbers and equipment to the NVA, what would this prove? The French and British in 1940 were superior in every category of armament with the sole exception of fighters. MILITARY SUPERIORITY DOES NOT EQUATE TO MORAL SUPERIORITY IMO. Message 20675681 That and the FACT that even with hundreds of billions of dollars of military aid, all the training we could offer, more than 50,000 American lives lost in the effort and every advantage that a country could reasonable hope for in terms of military support, the S. Vietnamese could not offer much of a fight. It's hard to get around that "armchair quarterback" truth. Ed