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To: Spheres who wrote (79881)10/22/2004 10:30:05 PM
From: Ilaine  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 794027
 
Well, there you go again. First you say nobody died in the Cold War, and when I pointed out to you that a lot of people died, you say, "well, that's not what won the war."

OK, if it makes you feel happy to think that your dad singlehandedly won the Cold War, then feel happy. It's a free country.

You can think whatever you want, not matter how far from reality it actually is. I don't argue with Kool-aid drinkers.



To: Spheres who wrote (79881)10/22/2004 11:11:40 PM
From: SBHX  Respond to of 794027
 
Bush, unlike Reagan, has not proven himself a worldwide leader.

Kind of hard to lead when a key French Govt member is being paid off to not follow you. (Oil For Food).

France never did exactly follow Reagan. They left NATO in 1966 over some snit about too much english spoken in the corridors. (Ok, that was a joke, I think they didn't believe the nuclear umbrella was going to work and were afraid the soviets may be provoked to attack). They only rejoined in 1993, four years after the fall of the Berlin Wall, and two years after the soviet union dissolved (they had to wait to make sure the Bear is really gone).

This is not so much about leading either. Thatcher and Reagan were ideologically equal partners, with the iron lady offering much of the spine stiffening.(g). The UK were in practically all of the conflicts US were in, and the Australians were in all of them. It's really kind of hard to rely on the French leaders, they will join a coalition only when the victory is certain, and they tend to be the first one to leave when things get hot.

I think if you look at the current coalition, even if some were to be discouraged in the days ahead, the core of that coalition is composed of men with vision. The core is the strongest coalition the US can assemble.