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To: KLP who wrote (79942)10/23/2004 12:45:32 AM
From: Spheres  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 794040
 
What do you think you owe your country? Well KLaP, it starts with God first, then the family and it radiates outward from there. You see, first there is God and then I am indebted to my wife, then the kids, and on to the parents (soon to be a liability). Beyond that, I suppose next on the list is the Church we attend, and then we feel quite indebted to our neighbors and the children’s schools. Then it gets fuzzy. I like to think that we are all citizens of the world, so that I draw a line in the sand here rhetoric does not go far with me. You see, I am a Christian before being an American. Our forefathers intended to keep a separation of Church and State, and as an ideology, it still works for me.



To: KLP who wrote (79942)10/23/2004 5:20:49 AM
From: Maurice Winn  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 794040
 
<What do you think you owe your country? >

You didn't ask me, but I'll answer anyway. My country [New Zealand] owes me big time. So does the USA, but I own the chunk I own and it's paying dividends and earning big profits, so that department is okay. My USA taxes are pretty steep for services rendered, but that's socialism for you.

I figure New Zealand owes me about US$1 million, which I'll never collect, and they [the government, which dopey Kiwis vote for like turkeys voting for an early Xmas] are giving it away to refugees, illegal immigrants and bludgers by the $billion.

I don't owe New Zealand anything. Nor do I owe anyone else anything. I've been a producer for decades. I long ago covered the cost of my education, medical services, roads and other stuff. I also think I should inherit my parent's and grandparent's and great grandparent's contributions [pro rata with other descendants]. I also think I should inherit the found resources, such as nice beaches, air, mountains, minerals and stuff.

The world is generally run back to front with the individuals seen as working for the state and owing the state and beholden to the state, and a disposable subject of the state, a mere serf like a mitochondrial source of energy for the body corporate.

Ask not what you can do for your country, ask when they heck they are going to give you your share certificate and start paying you cash on the barrelhead.

Mqurice