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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: bentway who wrote (650606)	10/23/2004 11:44:39 PM
From: steve harris	Respond to of 769670

9-9 getting uglier..... overpaid bunch of juveniles.... lol

To: bentway who wrote (650606)	10/24/2004 12:07:30 AM
From: Wayners	Respond to of 769670

Its a well known fact the markets cracked on Clinton's watch.

To: bentway who wrote (650606)	10/24/2004 5:34:33 AM
From: sandintoes	Respond to of 769670

Oh so now I'm "fat chick"? You libs are all the same, when you're losing an argument, you resort to name calling. When the libs find they must substitute name calling for actual facts, then we have won. Well, to quote a famous man who is going to defeat your flip flop man, That's okay, bring it on! Message 20680337 To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (650401) 10/23/2004 9:24:46 PM From: khang8537 of 650654 reposted for greater exposure in NY times forum johnflipkerry - 9:11 PM ET October 23, 2004 (#48825 of 48835) siliconinvestor.com [...] To: sandintoes who wrote (650327) 10/23/2004 12:13:16 PM From: Lazarus_Long Read Replies (2) of 650583 Absolutely amazing the way they keep repeating that canard in the face of repeated denial by the facts. CEA concludes that the "Clinton Recession" began in the third quarter of the year 2000, at least 6 months before Bush took office home.flash.net GDP indicate that the problems for the economy developed in the summer of 2000 www2.sjsu.edu The graphs in their tell the story rather clearly. The NBER- -the official scorekeeper: The committee noted that the most recent data indicate that the broadest measure of economic activity-gross domestic product in constant dollars-has risen 4.0 percent from its low in the third quarter of 2001, and is 3.3 percent above its pre-recession peak in the fourth quarter of 2000. nber.org This indicates the peak in March 2001. Bush would have been in office all of 2 months then. nber.org Message 20678940

To: bentway who wrote (650606)	10/27/2004 5:48:41 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

FU, AH. I've met sandintoes. She's hardly a "fat chick"; in fact, she is a rather good looking lady. And very personable, humorous, and easy to get along with. And just how would YOU know what she looks like in any case? She'd call the cops if YOU showed up and they'd frog march YOU into a cell. Undoubtedly the weakest rebuttal in the history of the site. And that's saying something. The National Bureau of Economic Research, a non-partisan group of mostly academic economists, set the start date of the recession as March 2001, weeks after Bush took office on Jan 20. The NBER defines a recession as "a significant decline in economic activity spread across the economy, lasting more than a few months, normally visible in real GDP, real income, employment, industrial production, and wholesale-retail sales." Weeks? WEEKS? WEEKS? Are you serious? Slick Willie had 8 years to screw it up and you expect a miracle in weeks? You can't even get a bill through Congress in that time. How stupid are you? To be sure, the rate of economic growth had slowed significantly at the time Bush took office, as the longest boom in US history drew to a close. No ***. The bubble was bursting. But employment was still growing when Bush was sworn in, and the economy actually added 113,000 payroll jobs between January and March 2001, before starting to decline in April.* All the indicators don't act in sync. Did you know that? In fact, the NBER did not even make a determination that a recession had begun until 10 months after Bush was sworn in The NBER is ALWAYS late in calling these things. Intentionally, basically. Did you know that? and said that the downturn might not even have qualified as a recession until the attacks of September 11, 2001 exacerbated the nation's economic troubles. The NBER's Business Cycle Dating Committee said, "Before the attacks, it is possible that the decline in the economy would have been too mild to qualify as a recession. The attacks clearly deepened the contraction and may have been an important factor in turning the episode into a recession." So are you a Durista and think Bush and Cheney were really behind 911? Just how dumb ARE you, anyway?

To: bentway who wrote (650606)	10/27/2004 5:49:52 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Respond to of 769670

To: bentway who wrote (650606)	10/27/2004 5:51:24 PM
From: Hope Praytochange	Respond to of 769670

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To: bentway who wrote (650606)	10/27/2004 5:52:52 PM
From: Hope Praytochange	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

yet another catastrophic hurricane The National Weather Service has issued a warning for yet another catastrophic hurricane following on the heels of Charley, Frances, Ivan and Jeanne. The path of this hurricane zigs and zags, and is therefore highly unpredictable. Experts predict that this one will cause the most damage to the United States that we have experienced in four years. They are naming this one Hurricane Kerry. Be advised, the only way for citizens to protect themselves is by hiding behind a Bush.