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To: glenn_a who wrote (20624)10/25/2004 12:00:25 AM
From: TH  Respond to of 110194
 
Glenn,

I enjoy and benefit greatly from your perspective. I have no fear or concern regarding disagreement. If we agree on everything, nothing is learned.

And, the fact that you are interested in this topic is reason enough to give it some serious consideration. Consider that a sincere compliment.

I agree that the description of Ruppert's psychological profile sounds like disinformation. I think if he was close to the heart on this topic then someone would have put a hole in his heart.

I was completely in the dark before the internet. I'm still in the dark, but it appears that there is some light coming from a crack beneath the door. For example, 10 years ago I would have told you that CPI was fact and argued with you about it.

I will read this book and I look forward to continuing this discussion. Maybe we should start a new thread on this topic.

Thanks

TH

P.S. I know a Watergate "character" a little bit. He has always been on the short list for possible "Deep Throats". He never spoke to me about Watergate and I've been told he never does to anyone.



To: glenn_a who wrote (20624)10/25/2004 7:28:47 AM
From: Northern Marlin  Respond to of 110194
 
O/T RE: Watergate

Hi Glenn,

It's been around thirty years since I was watching every moment of live TV coverage available on the Watergate hearings. I was a college student then, near to graduation, and I convinced a history professor to allow the focus of my independent study to be those hearings.

I was watching when Butterfield let the cat out of the bag about Nixon's taping system. The events following Butterfield's gaff did more to damage Nixon and his crew than any leaks to reporters, in my opinion. Of course, that dovetails with my view of government as a bumbling, stumbling colossus.

You say Watergate came out because someone very high up wanted it brought out. I know the "All the President's Men" version plays well and all, but that again is largely to my mind political theatre. Maybe so, but all of my small experience in dealing with government officials cries out that Watergate became a household word because of mistakes that humans typically make: Nixon wanted to record for posterity all his momentous decisions, forgetting that the recording device would record whenever it was turned on. Butterfield made the mistake of assuming that the Watergate panel already knew about the recording system.

Phil



To: glenn_a who wrote (20624)12/13/2004 3:26:23 PM
From: Glenn Petersen  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 110194
 
>>the case of Gary Webb in the early 1990's was truly amazing in the wrath and invective he received from the mainstream media to discredit him as a journalist.<<

Mr. Webb is dead.

chicagotribune.com

GARY WEBB, 49

Author of controversial series linking CIA, crack


Los Angeles Times
Published December 13, 2004

Gary Webb, an investigative reporter who wrote a widely criticized series linking the CIA to the explosion of crack cocaine in Los Angeles, has been found dead in his northern California home. He apparently killed himself, authorities said.

Mr. Webb, whose body was discovered Friday, had a gunshot wound to the head, according to the Sacramento County Coroner's Office. He was 49.

His 1996 San Jose Mercury News series contended that Nicaraguan drug traffickers had sold tons of crack cocaine from Colombian cartels in Los Angeles' black neighborhoods and then funneled millions in profits back to the CIA-supported Nicaraguan rebel group known as the contras.

Three months after the series was published, the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department said it conducted an exhaustive investigation but found no evidence of a connection between the CIA and Southern California drug traffickers.

Major newspapers, including the Los Angeles Times, The New York Times and The Washington Post, wrote articles discrediting elements of Mr. Webb's reporting.

Months later, the Mercury News also backed away from the series, publishing an open letter to its readers admitting to flaws.

"We oversimplified the complex issue of how the crack epidemic in America grew," wrote the paper's executive editor, Jerry Ceppos, adding, "I believe that we fell short at every step of our process--in the writing, editing and production of our work."

The paper reassigned Mr. Webb to a suburban bureau. He quit in December 1997.

"All he ever wanted to do was write," said Mr. Webb's ex-wife, Susan Bell, who met him when both were high school students in Indiana. "He never really recovered from it."

Mr. Webb continued to defend his reporting, most notably in a 548-page book, "Dark Alliance: The CIA, the Contras, and the Crack Cocaine Explosion," published in 1998.

After leaving The Mercury News, Mr. Webb worked in state government.

"The guy had a fierce commitment to justice and truth," said Tom Dresslar, a spokesman for the California attorney general's office who worked with Mr. Webb.

"He cared deeply about the people who are forgotten, that we try to shove into the dark recesses of our minds and world," Dresslar said.

Mr. Webb's career remained troubled. Earlier this year he was one of a group of employees fired from the California Assembly speaker's Office of Member Services for failing to show up for work.

Mr. Webb, who lived in Carmichael, Calif., continued to write occasionally for a variety of publications. Last summer the weekly Sacramento News & Review hired him to cover government and politics.

He recently had written two cover stories, including one on how much money Sacramento County was making off the use of traffic-signal cameras.

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