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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (80475)	10/25/2004 4:01:13 AM
From: Sully-	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793790

"I see it's another one of Kerry's exaggerations to increase his authority" I'll freely admit that I cannot stand habitual liars. The more they lie on matters of substance, the less I want to have to do with them. At best, the Times can link Kerry to short discussions with 3 of the 15 members of the Security Council (4 with a second hand account). Kerry has claimed on multiple occasions that he met at length with each & every one of them before he voted to authorize the use of force. When confronted with his lies, Kerry lies again by revising history. This was a case where Kerry was simultaneously maligning Bush & attempting to establish serious FP credibility. And Kerry has also made his personal integrity, as well as Bush's alleged lack of it, a significant campaign issue. This is way beyond an exaggeration to me. Apparently I am in a distinct minority on this issue. And yes, the MSM & the liberal left will yawn over it & tell be how "Bush lied & misled" us into a "unilateral" war.

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (80475)	10/25/2004 5:31:43 AM
From: Neeka	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793790

The implications surrounding this lie are much more important. Gore's claiming to have invented the Internet is laughable.....we all know he exaggerated. Some say he was referring to a 1990 bill he sponsored in congress "that would allow the federal government to enter the business of crafting software for teachers to use. Another Gore plan would create a new federal research center for educational computing to support an "information systems highway." But the system he envisioned bears little resemblance to the PC-dominated Internet. "Supercomputers are the steam locomotives of the information age," then-Senator Gore was quoted as saying in one article published in 1990. "In the Industrial Age, steam locomotives didn't do much good until the railroad tracks were laid down across the nation. Similarly, we now have supercomputers going into the seventh generation of supercomputers, but we don't have the interstate highways that we need to connect them. "Within four years, the top-of-the-line US$20 million supercomputers will cost less than $400,000. A few years after that, they will be in the $10,000 to $20,000 range." But the development of the Net has resembled less a government-managed industrial project -- such as the orderly interstate-highway systems Gore hoped for -- and more an anarchic sprawl. "Gore played no positive role in the decisions that led to the creation of the Internet as it now exists -- that is, in the opening of the Internet to commercial traffic," said Steve Allen, vice president for communications at the conservative Progress and Freedom Foundation. Since 1993, Gore has become one of the most prominent people in the Clinton administration on issues related to high technology. He hosts visiting businessmen and takes pride in personally announcing new technology initiatives such as Internet II funding. He also took the lead in supporting the Clipper Chip and continued restrictions on the overseas shipments of encryption products. High-visibility events can be prone to embarrassing slip-ups. At one recent White House event, Gore introduced Cisco Systems CEO John Chambers, who he had met with privately earlier that day. Gore told the audience how much he valued Chambers and one of the products Cisco produced. But he mispronounced "routers" as root-ers. web.archive.org Seth Finklestien put together a pretty good page that further explains Gore's gaffe. sethf.com What Kerry has done is much more serious. He has intentionally lied. This is very disturbing to me. How many other lies......beside the all the other lies he's told....... is he hiding, or worse yet capable of telling? We cannot afford a president that is a proven liar. Kerry has a screw loose if this story is true. This man frightens me. M