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To: mistermj who wrote (62695)10/25/2004 6:40:07 PM
From: sylvester80  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 89467
 
Still playing with yourself mjfdl? The point is that these explosives were under the control of the UN till Bush told them to get lost. It is Bush's criminal incompetence that is at issue here and that incompetence has made America LESS safe and has killed 1100 of our boys. So WAKE THE HELL UP!

And BTW, Reagan Bush and Rumsfeld gave Saddam ACTUAL WMDs to use:

"After Rumsfield’s visit to Baghdad in 1983, US intelligence began supplying him with satellite photos of the Iranian troops’ deployment. Americans also secretly arranged for tanks and other military hardware to be shipped to Iraq. Reagan also supplied Saddam with, among other items, chemical-analysis equipment for the Iraq Atomic Energy Commission (IAEC) and numerous shipments of “bacteria / fungi /protoza” to the IAEC. The bacterial cultures could be used to make biological weapons, including anthrax. Now you know the culprit who supplied Saddam with the biological weapons. The helicopters which were used to spray poison gas on the Kurds were also supplied by the Reagan Administration. State departments also knew that Saddam was using chemical weapons against Iranian troops and the Americans blamed Iran when they knew from their satellite imagery that it was their friend Saddam who bombed Kurdish rebels and civilians with a lethal cocktail of mustard gas, sarin, tabun and vx in 1988.

The US Commandos also assisted Iraq by blowing up Iranian oil platforms and attacking Iranian patrol boats. In addition, the US shot down an Iranian airbus in 1988 killing 290 civilians. Up to today, no action is taken to bring the culprits to justice. Saddam learnt how to blow up Kuwaiti oilfields from his friends, the Americans. What would happen to Iran if it had shot down an American civilian plane? Would not the Americans bomb them to the stone age as they have done to Afghanistan although none of its citizens were responsible for the September 11 incident? Has the message of the “prince of peace” gotten lost in the shuffle?"

Must be fun to be ignorant in your right wing fascist world, eh?

bartcop.com



To: mistermj who wrote (62695)10/25/2004 8:24:40 PM
From: T L Comiskey  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 89467
 
M
'Oh come on TL...you leave out the link and do not include the part of the story that says the explosives were already gone by the time of the invasion.'

My omission of that link was due to the source
being 'My' Yahoo account..
posting it would allow you
or anyone else.. access to my portfolio
emails ect..
So I hope you understand my actions

T



To: mistermj who wrote (62695)10/25/2004 8:32:32 PM
From: T L Comiskey  Respond to of 89467
 
Point number two..

'Oh come on TL...you leave out the link and do not include the part of the story that says ....
(from your post...)

The explosives were 'Already Gone' by the time of the invasion.'

Yet your more recent post says this is ...Not So...
(from your post to S...)
"Upon their return, the inspectors discovered that about 35 tons of HMX were missing."

this '35 tons' is 10% or less ...than the total...

therefore 90% remained "by the time of the invasion"

thats a Big Difference in my mind

T



To: mistermj who wrote (62695)10/25/2004 8:42:51 PM
From: T L Comiskey  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 89467
 
#3..

additionally..from your link..

"The International Atomic Energy Agency publicly warned about the danger of these explosives before the war, and after the invasion it specifically told United States officials about the need to keep the explosives secured, European diplomats said in interviews last week.

Administration officials say they cannot explain why the explosives were not safeguarded, beyond the fact that the occupation force was overwhelmed by the amount of munitions they found throughout the country."..................................................

Now..granted.. UN inspection seals 'may' have been missing..
(as reported)
But,,Considering the importance of this material and its ability to cause Great Harming..
And the Knowelege of its Exact Location...
the lack of seals means little..
to those who died because of gross negligence...
the Invasion was done on the cheap..both because of the use of Faulty Intel..
and imo..
Arrogance..( Cheney..Rumsfeld..Perele..Wolfowitz,,ect..ect)
T