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To: i-node who wrote (208591)	10/26/2004 12:27:07 AM
From: TigerPaw	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573954

It was the Left who refused to give Bush's court nominees even so much as a fair hearing That goes beyond silly. It's just plane dumb. The democrats pass through far more court moninees than the republicans did when Clinton was in office. TP

To: i-node who wrote (208591)	10/26/2004 1:03:34 AM
From: Elroy	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573954

It was the Left who refused to give Bush's court nominees even so much as a fair hearing This is not the type of thing that unites or divides a country. it was the Left who chronically treated Bush as though he was some sort of mental defective He is, isn't he? it was the Left who attempted to steal the election in Florida. This also did not "divide" the country. It is interesting that these false accusations are made against a man who, as governor of Texas, was universally believed to be a "uniter". He didn't get a chance to get involved in international relations while governor of Texas. And if he was so good at uniting while governor of Texas, perhaps he should quit his current post (where he is the most divisive President I can recall) and run for another term as governor of Texas. I'll even submit an illegal ballot for him for that post! What, SPECIFICALLY, makes you believe Bush is a "divider"? Alienated a huge chunk of the American population through his un-American activities in his campaign to improve America's safety (much of America doesn't like anyone's civil liberties getting destroyed by OUR government), cite his religious beliefs repeatedly and their influence on setting policy (much of American appreciates the separation of church and state), and his failure to execute well on the post-major combat operations in Iraq (much of America doesn't want a President to fail in major overseas operations which involve their kids lives). That's a few.

To: i-node who wrote (208591)	10/26/2004 1:23:13 AM
From: beach_bum	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573954

"What, SPECIFICALLY, makes you believe Bush is a "divider"?" Did Cheney acknowledge that one of the dissappointment of this administration over the last 4 years was divided this country (even after all the support they got after 9/11 from everyone) is. Bush's mantra of "with us or against us" will force people/nation to choose sides. Is it not logical to conclude that the only chance of seeing unity is when everyone agrees with his side ? Maybe, you are trying to say, that the only reason bush could not unite the country, is because many didn't follow him and that is not bush's failing. And do you believe that just because we chose a president, we must follow him blindly. Correct ? By the way, you dont have to keep saying "it's a fact or in fact" or using CAPs so often. it almost makes you seem like you are not very confident and that you are trying to make up for that. it's reasonable to assume that people are capable of coming to their own conclusions. Bum.

To: i-node who wrote (208591)	10/26/2004 1:41:24 AM
From: Elroy	Respond to of 1573954

Can you believe there are actually some people that think Bush is a uniter? This may be one of the most unfair remarks about Bush I've seen If Bush were a uniter, why would the GOP need to exclude non-GOP faithful from Bush rallies? it was the Left who chronically treated Bush as though he was some sort of mental defective How else do you explain the orchestration at press conferences where he calls on reporters that are supportive of him and that won't ask tough questions? That's not very indicative of a mental standout president.

To: i-node who wrote (208591)	10/27/2004 2:10:35 AM
From: Amy J	Respond to of 1573954

David, RE: "What, SPECIFICALLY, makes you believe Bush is a "divider"?" The choice of his words, "you are with me or against me." These are divisive words, which followers are emulating here. After Bush used those words, I heard a blue collar worker get mad at someone when he was standing in line, and he said, "you are either for me or against me." He was completely emulating what he heard from Bush. And since Bush has come into office, I've heard numerous people out there use those same words against some other stranger they don't know. People generally don't use such words with me, because I try to reset things to a more polite tone. But how many people attempt to reset things to a more polite exchange and try to listen with open ears, rather than spiral out of control into divisive anger? Too many people are emulating Bush's dividing language and inappropriately creating hostility when there's no need to. While you and I might have the intelligence to realize he was not talking about people in this country, at the end of the day, a leader (unfortunately) is emulating what followers will do here. I would also add that divisive language isn't appropriate for resolving things thru diplomatic channels. I am seeing too many people adopting Bush's divisive language, because this is what people tend to do, they tend to follow the leader, even if the leader is setting down the wrong example for them to use here. That is only one example. He says, "I", instead of "we". He tends to tell you what you should think, rather than say, "I hope you will consider my reasons." He seems to imply there's one way or no way. Overall, his choice of words creates an environment that divides people. Language is awfully important - for better and for worse. When he said he wasn't a divider, I think that should have been a warning to all of us. Regards, Amy J