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To: Lane3 who wrote (80992)10/26/2004 11:39:35 PM
From: Sully-  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793896
 
LOL! Your position is laughable. Do I really have to define
the real meaning of the word "and"? It's in addition to, not
instead of, or an unrelated matter.

You sound just like Kerry & Clinton. It only means what
I say it means & is subject to multiple revisions if I'm
exposed as wrong or not being truthful.

"the part you bolded, doesn't affect the meaning of the first half. The conjunction he used is an "and.""

Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

and

- used as a function word to indicate connection or addition especially of items within the same class or type; used to join sentence elements of the same grammatical rank or function

- used as a function word to express logical modification, consequence, antithesis, or supplementary explanation

- used in logic to form a conjunction



To: Lane3 who wrote (80992)10/28/2004 7:46:46 PM
From: TimF  Respond to of 793896
 
My truncation of the second half of the compound predicate, the part you bolded, doesn't affect the meaning of the first half.

I don't agree.

"because if we make the
wrong choice, then the danger is that we'll get hit again, that we'll be hit in a way that will be devastating from the
standpoint of the United States"

Implies that we will get hit again if we make the wrong choice on Nov 2nd.

"because if we make the
wrong choice, then the danger is that we'll get hit again,
that we'll be hit in a way that will be devastating from the
standpoint of the United States, and that we'll fall back
into the pre-9/11 mind set if you will, that in fact these
terrorist attacks are just criminal acts, and that we're not
really at war.'"

Is about the danger that we can hit again but then don't treat the attack as if we were at war but rather as as a regular criminal act.

The statement after the and is only relevant in the context of us being hit again. Saying the danger is X and Y doesn't have to mean two different dangers. Its one danger that X happens and then Y happens, or in this case that we get hit again and then respond in an innapropriate way.

Tim



To: Lane3 who wrote (80992)10/28/2004 7:48:13 PM
From: TimF  Respond to of 793896
 
If I say "I hate coffee and licorice," leaving off the "licorice" doesn't change the meaning of my expressed view of coffee.

It might. Its possible for you to hate the combination of licorice and coffee without hating coffee, or even without hating coffee or licorice by themselves.

Tim