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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (54980)	10/27/2004 3:29:12 PM
From: Snowshoe	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

>>whining about "gouging" by flu vaccine suppliers<< I am trying to finance my next flu shot by investing in Crucell (CRXL). They are giving the poor hens a rest by developing a process to make vaccines without using millions of chicken eggs. finance.yahoo.com

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (54980)	10/28/2004 12:09:26 AM
From: Taikun	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

Mq, <No need for big, fat, stupid government departments running CO2 exchanges at great cost, especially for the non-problem of CO2, which is a good thing.> It was industry who suggested these exchanges during the Kyoto negotiations (funny thing that the issue that separated the US from the Europeans: private competitive CO2 credit exchanges is exactly what the Europeans launched) as the best way to price CO2 credits, since they didn't think the gov't would do a good job. If you care to look up the market participants (mainly in Tx where it started in the US) they are, AFAIKT, all private companies. <Lobster prices are also at gouging levels.> Actually there is a glut, McDonalds in Maine serves Lobster in some meals. Lobster thrives in overfished oceans. <High prices attract new suppliers. The prices make those who don't really need the vaccine do without> If there's any left after the politicians and healthcare provider have theirs. Of course, one can travel to Canada or pay outrageous prices. Infants where we live cannot get vaccines until December, and maybe not at all, and they are in the high risk group. I am not sure how you attract new suppliers when the vaccine takes 6mos to produce. Kind of like hiring a new Captain on a 747 midflight Sydney to San Francisco when yours quits. <Any scarce resource has prices at high enough levels to reduce demand.> Only if it is priced properly, Mq. Companies will not price the revenue loss from the sick days and the US will not price the GDP hit until after the fact. If you priced the GDP hit a $200 per vaccine should be cheap but who will pay that? So the company takes the hit. The person who pays and the entity deriving the benefit (the company) are different in many cases, especially companies that did not organize flu vaccines for workers. <especially for the non-problem of CO2, which is a good thing.> OK, Maurice, we all know you think a planet without ice caps is a 'good thing', and we don't need air or any other natural resources because they can all be manufactured. It is amazing what QCOM's phones can do today, isn't it? Do they still have the 'print money' feature? I need more of that. How about the 'new wife' or 'request supermodel' functions? Will the new phones have the 'create vacation paradise in backyard' button? David