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To: michael97123 who wrote (149360)10/27/2004 3:26:33 PM
From: Michael Watkins  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
But how can you say that saddams iraq was a "bulwark against terrorism?"

I don't think GST's comment was off base at all. Whether we like Saddam or not he had control over the country and he was not overly sympathetic to any other country in the region. With Saddam in place there was little likelyhood of a merger of interests between say Iran and Iraq happening, which would have created some amount of momentum.

The Bush / Wolfowitz doctorine (lets call it the Wolfowitz doctorine, Bush certainly did not invent it himself) is flawed in that it presumes that you can by force instill a democracy there. Iraq is not double-nuked Japan; Iraq is not totally surrounded Germany post a world war. The only similarity is that Iraq has been bombed to bits too and someone is going to make a lot of money rebuilding it...

Iraq may yet have elections and they may yet elect a government which is far more friendly to Iran than Saddam would ever have been.

And then what...



To: michael97123 who wrote (149360)10/28/2004 8:44:00 AM
From: GST  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
<you say that saddams iraq was a "bulwark against terrorism?" That's as ridiculous as this admins overrating the collaberation between saddam and al quaeda. You should know better. mike>

No Mike, it goes to the heart of the issue for people who actually have to deal with these things. Saddam fooled around with his own brand of terror about 15 years ago -- that is true. But he was, until his "removal", a force holding back the Jihadists. Now that he is gone they have free reign in Iraq. They wound and kill our soldiers every day and they gained access to weapons materials like plastic explosives in massive quantities that they would otherwise have paid a fortune to buy in small quantities -- no joke Mike, Bin Laden has friends in Washington. We gave Iraq and its powerful cache of conventional weapons to Bin Laden and he is enjoying it thoroughly. Invading Iraq was a giant step backwards for the war on terror.