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To: Neocon who wrote (149372)10/27/2004 3:04:15 PM
From: carranza2  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Oh, because of the preposterously pompous references to "true believers" and "emotional appeals" and so forth, as if it were a vice to have faith in your cause and your country in time of war.

Irony alert, indeed.

You once again, perhaps regretably, point me in the sociological direction.

Appeals like the ones Sir Winston made so eloquently are lost on cynical bicoastal metropolitan sophisticates, who consider them corny and dumb, but are much more effective on the middle and lower middle classes, i.e., the ones whose sons and daughters are, ironically, in the breach. They have a lot more to lose than we do.

Perhaps the art of rhetoric needs a little updating. Seems difficult to appeal to both sides of the populace without getting tied up in contradictions.



To: Neocon who wrote (149372)10/27/2004 10:12:55 PM
From: Win Smith  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Oh, I'm deeply hurt. I have plenty of faith in my country, just not in the current leadership. W's fan club is stuck in reality avoidance mode on Iraq, where things are allegedly going really, really well, and would much rather beat things that happened 30 years ago to death than talk about W's somewhat dubious record as President. That's life.