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To: Elroy who wrote (209019)	10/28/2004 2:32:16 AM
From: tejek	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1574679

That's arrogant......you presume we know what's best for the planet. Perhaps its arrogant, but I believe the basic values in the Dec of Ind and Bill or Rights (you know, all men equal, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, rule of law, etc.) are best for the planet. Its arrogant because you are suggesting that you know what's best for some other group of people with whom you have very little experience. Its also arrogant because it assumes a great deal. The Declaration of Indepence, Bill of Rights et al were written over 300 years after the Magna Carta had been drafted. The MC was the basis for English common law and for our democracy. That means that for 300 years prior to our independence the English [and colonists] had been toying with with one form of democracy or another. Democracy is not easy. Its not like riding a bike........a couple of times with training wheels and then you are on your way. It takes a lot of work and commitment. I suspect the Iraqis are capable of working hard but I don't believe they have the commitment. And that's because they have very little experience with democracy. For all the wonders of the Islamic Empire and then the Ottoman Empire, democracy was not one of them. Its takes lots of learning time and experience to be democratic. Hence, expecting that the Iraqis will pick up on democracy like ducks to water is not only arrogant, its absurd. We will be doing well if Iraq has a working democracy, much like ours, by the 22nd century. We will never have reduced defense spending because those of us who are paranoid will insist upon maintaining current levels. Part of the right's furor is that defense spending was reduced under Clinton. You just said something will never happen, and then pointed out a time when it did. That don't make no sense! Yes, it does make sense......because the reduction has been temporary. Defense spending is on its way back up. Furthermore, this society is way to aggressive, militaristic and patriarchal to go soft on defense. The reduction in military spending under the Bush 1 and Clinton years proves you wrong. There is a whole segment of the population that chafed at that reduction. They are called neocons and at the present time, they lead this nation. And at least half this nation agrees with them. Call the police. Read it again, you are missing the line where in this theoretical example there are no outside regulators, just your family and the wife-beater next door. That wasn't the case with Iraq. There were police......the US, Brits and the French. There were sanctions etc. Your analogy is a weak one and there is no reason for me to answer it. ted