To: puborectalis who wrote (22696 ) 10/28/2004 9:23:04 AM From: jim-thompson Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 27181 Just another email message I received on why John Kerry, the person with stolen Honor/Valor is unfit for command. PAGMRG16@msn.com > > I was in the Delta shortly after he left. I know that area well. I > > know the operations he was involved in well. I know the tactics and the > > doctrine used. I know the equipment. Although I was attached to > > CTF-116 (PBRs) I spent a fair amount of time with CTF-115 (swift > > boats), Kerry's command. > > > > Here are my problems and suspicions: > > > > (1) Kerry was in-country less than four months and collected, a Bronze > > Star, a Silver Star and three purple hearts. I never heard of anybody > > with any outfit I worked with (including SEAL One, the Sea Wolves, > > Riverines and the River Patrol Force) collecting that much hardware so > > fast, and for such pedestrian actions. The Swifts did a commendable job. > > But that duty wasn't the worst you could draw. They operated only > > along the coast and in the major rivers (Bassac and Mekong). The rough > > stuff in the hot areas was mainly handled by the smaller, faster PBRs. > > > > (2) Three Purple Hearts but no limp. All injuries so minor that no > > time lost from duty. Amazing luck. Or he was putting himself in for > > medals every time he bumped his head on the wheel house hatch? Combat > > on the boats was almost always at close range. You didn't have minor > > wounds. At least not often. Not three times in a row. Then he used > > the three purple hearts to request a trip home eight months before the > > end of his tour. Fishy. > > > > (3) The details of the event for which he was given the Silver Star > > make no sense at all. Supposedly, a B-40 was fired at the boat and > > missed. Charlie jumps up with the launcher in his hand, the bow gunner > > knocks him down with the twin .50, Kerry beaches the boat, jumps off, > > shoots Charlie, and retreives the launcher. If true, he did everything > > wrong. > > (a) Standard procedure when you took rocket fire was to put your > > stern to the action and go balls to the wall. A B-40 has the ballistic > > integrity of a frisbie after about 25 yards, so you put 50 yards or so > > between you and the beach and begin raking it with your .50's. > > (b) Did you ever see anybody get knocked down with a .50 caliber > > round and get up? The guy was dead or dying. The rocket launcher was > > empty. There was no reason to go after him (except if you knew he was > > no danger to you just flopping around in the dust during his last few > > seconds on earth, and you wanted some derring do in your after-action > > report). And we didn't shoot wounded people. We had rules against that, > > too. > > (c) Kerry got off the boat. This was a major breach of standing > > procedures. Nobody on a boat crew ever got off a boat in a hot area. > > EVER! The reason was simple. If you had somebody on the beach your > > boat was defenseless. It coudn't run and it couldn' t return fire. It > > was stupid and it put his crew in danger. He should have been relieved > > and reprimanded. I never heard of any boat crewman ever leaving a boat > > during or after a firefight. > > > > Something is fishy. > > > > Here we have a JFK wannabe (the guy Halsey wanted to court martial for > > carelessly losing his boat and getting a couple people killed by running > > across the bow of a Jap destroyer) who is hardly in Vietnam long enough > > to get good tan, collects medals faster than Audie Murphy in a job where > > lots of medals weren't common, gets sent home eight months early, > > requests separation from active duty a few months after that so he can > > run for Congress, finds out war heros don't sell well in Massachsetts in > > 1970 so reinvents himself as Jane Fonda, throws his ribbons in the dirt > > with the cameras running to jump start his political career, gets > > Stillborn Pell to invite him to address Congress and Bobby Kennedy's > > speechwriter to do the heavy lifting, winds up in the Senate himself a > > few years later, votes against every major defense bill, says the CIA is > > irrelevant after the Wall came down, votes against the Gulf War, a big > > mistake since that turned out well, decides not to make the same mistake > > twice so votes for invading Iraq, but oops, that didn't turn out so well > > so he now says he really didn't mean for Bush to go to war when he voted > > to allow him to go to war. > > > > I'm real glad you or I never had this guy covering out flanks in > > Vietnam. I sure don't want him as Commander in Chief. I hope that > > somebody from CTF-115 shows up with some facts challenging Kerry's > > Vietnam record. I know in my gut it's wildy inflated. And fishy. > > > > Keep smiling, > > > > Mike > >