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To: Wharf Rat who wrote (63482)	10/28/2004 11:05:08 AM
From: longnshort	Respond to of 89467

Unfit to print "Both the Kerry camp and its big-media arm warned of an October surprise. But they didn't say that they — and not Bush's operatives — would be behind it," Investor's Business Daily said yesterday in an editorial. "The 'surprise'? The New York Times reported Monday that U.S. troops allowed 380 tons of explosives to be looted from a military site in Iraq during the first days of the war. "John Kerry immediately pounced on the news. He suggested the administration's incompetence may have led to weapons getting into 'the hands of terrorists [who] can use this material to blow up our airplanes, blow up our buildings, kill American troops.' "But once again, the big media have pushed a major story late in a campaign that discredits George W. Bush, only for us to discover it was made of whole cloth," the newspaper said. "This has become a distressing pattern in recent presidential campaigns. It happened in 1992 with Iran-Contra, it happened in 2000 with drunk-driving allegations and it's happening this year with the ammo dump. "Fortunately, as soon as the Times' story broke, NBC noted that its own reporters were embedded with the 101st Airborne troops who came upon the munitions site in question. And NBC's journalists said it was empty when they got there on April 10, 2003. Empty. "There's no polite way to put it: This story was a lie, apparently cooked up to serve the Times' partisan ends. It's not the first time."

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (63482)	10/28/2004 11:07:06 AM
From: jlallen	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

Poppycock.....here's an excellent post.... To: Doug R who wrote (652674) 10/28/2004 10:49:04 AM From: Selectric II Read Replies (1) of 652704 Interesting "story"... The labels are in English. Reminds me of Saddam's western-directed propaganda during the Gulf War, with English-language signs stating, "Baby Milk Factory." Do you think Saddam contracted with Berlitz to teach all of his troops English? More importantly, is the fact that the entire "story" is based on speculation, not facts: A 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS crew in Iraq shortly after the fall of Saddam Hussein was in the area where tons of explosives disappeared, and may have videotaped some of those weapons. -- But they don't know. They're speculating. ...Using GPS technology and talking with members of the 101st Airborne Division, 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS has determined the crew embedded with the troops may have been on the southern edge of the Al Qaqaa installation, where the ammunition disappeared. -- But they don't even know for where they were, as the sentence points out. They're speculating. ...During that trip, members of the 101st Airborne Division showed the 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS news crew bunker after bunker of material labelled "explosives." -- Yep, that's what bunkers are for. But there is no evidence whatsoever from that story that those explosives -- if they really are explosives, are those in question. And the labels were in English, no less. In case Saddam's Iraqi soldiers only spoke English? Or for westerners to believe that Saddam had explosives there? ..."We weren't quite sure what were looking at, but we saw so much of it and it didn't appear that this was being secured in any way," said photojournalist Joe Caffrey. -- They didn't know what they were looking at, but now it's a news story, even though they still don't know what they were looking at. ... But Caffrey and former 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS Reporter Dean Staley, who spent three months together in Iraq, said Iraqis were coming and going freely. -- With 38 heavy trucks and heavy equipment to load them? They didn't mention seeing that. At one point there was a group of Iraqis driving around in a pick-up truck,"Staley said. "Three or four guys we kept an eye on, worried they might come near us." -- That's one heckuva pickup truck, capable of carying 380 tons of cargo. Was it a Ford, or a Dodge? I want one. ...On Wednesday, 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS e-mailed still images of the footage taken at the site to experts in Washington to see if the items captured on tape are the same kind of high explosives that went missing in Al Qaqaa. Those experts could not make that determination. -- In other words, the whole story is speculation, full of irrelevant facts that are intended solely to make the President of the United States look bad.