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To: greenspirit who wrote (149730)	10/29/2004 8:56:55 AM
From: michael97123	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Please. This swift boat crap along with this admins inability to admit error is what has done him in, if in fact he loses. Even if he wins, he comes to his second term as a failed president and the most divisive figure in american history. He will have to move quickly to dispel some of that but the nature of his team seems to preclude that. Bush should have seen all this coming but his instincts on politics seem as bad as his instincts on loyalty over accountablility. I have great affection for Bush because he stood with me on 9/11 so although i may root for him, i probably wont vote for him. mike

To: greenspirit who wrote (149730)	10/29/2004 9:15:08 AM
From: Suma	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

About 30 years ago there was a war. It was called Viet Nam. That war is over... although there are some who want to use every excuse to damn John Kerry for his actions AFTER he fought in that war. Today we have a different war and let's hope in the intervening years that John Kerry has changed.. I don't think that he has been stuck in block of ice wherein he has not had an opportunity to re-evaluate the Viet Nam war.... This war is not of his creation. Implications are very different. We don't have communists, we have terrorists. To try to compare 30 years ago and discredit the current John Kerry with the present war is dishonest. That is why the SwiftVet film will have Little impact.. Sorry. I watched it and it didn't mean a thing to me excepting that I felt very badly for the veterans now as I did then when they came back to an uncaring Country.

To: greenspirit who wrote (149730)	10/29/2004 12:00:48 PM
From: Michael Watkins	Respond to of 281500

Should Seymour Hersh's piece on Mai Lai be condemed by the same vet? I don't think Kerry betrayed anyone in bringing to the public light atrocities committed. His testimony may have been over the top, but bad things happened in Vietnam and the country needed people - not just Kerry - to press the big reset button hard so the country could get on course again. I can well imagine that POWs had a very hard time reconciling with anyone that they perceived as advancing the enemy's cause, however their anger is better aimed at the commanders at the top of the food chain that ordered them there and kept them there for years - both Democrat and Republican.