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To: russwinter who wrote (21035)	10/30/2004 12:14:48 PM
From: Crimson Ghost	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 110194

Note the changing terror spin. Cheney said a few weeks ago that a Kerry win would encourage terrorists to attack the US. Now the Bushie spin is since Osama may be threatening attacks if Bush wins, lets vote for Bush to show how tough we are. Heads I win; tails you lose.

To: russwinter who wrote (21035)	10/30/2004 12:41:53 PM
From: Haim R. Branisteanu	Respond to of 110194

russ, there is much more activity on OTC markets, run by commercial banks and WS that makes the exchange data not as relevant as it was before (10/15 or more years ago). The various derivatives on everything from commodities to FX to debentures and equities are several times bigger in value and volume than the registered exchanges. Add to the mix the various CB’s intervention were P&L is not a priority which add even more to the confusion.

To: russwinter who wrote (21035)	10/30/2004 1:08:06 PM
From: Square_Dealings	Respond to of 110194

russ I mostly trade from charts. There is so much noise in the way of financial data most of it questionable. I stopped watching CNBC a few years ago and I think Im going to stop watching the COTS now because honestly I've never made money using them. Whatever is going on this one looks good to me stockcharts.com[h,a]wacaynay[df][pc40!b8!f]&pref=G Im pretty heavy long in it and a few others like KGC which look equally good imo. Unless they reverse, I'm in regardless. good trading M.

To: russwinter who wrote (21035)	10/30/2004 4:02:41 PM
From: Wyätt Gwyön	Respond to of 110194

This is grist for silly season MoP operations and manipulative spin, even going so far as to get Bush reelected (perhaps bin Laden's goal?). that is billmon's take... Osama's Endorsement Right on time, too -- four days before the election. (The Madrid bombing was three days before.) Osama bin Laden, reading a statement to the American people in a new videotape aired Friday, directly admitted for the first time that he ordered the Sept. 11 attacks and said "the best way to avoid another Manhattan" was to stop threatening Muslims' security... He accused President Bush of "misleading" the American people since the 2001 suicide airline hijackings that hit the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. "Your security is not in the hands of (Democratic candidate John) Kerry or Bush or al-Qaida. Your security is in your own hands," bin Laden said. If anyone had any doubts about which candidate al-Qaeda prefers in this election, I think you can put them to rest now. This tape -- coming hard on the heels of "Azzam the American" -- is obviously designed to have U.S. voters as obsessively worried about the terrorist threat as possible when they go into the voting booth next Tuesday. Osama, like Bush, understands the electoral value of zapping the deeper reptilian centers of the brain. Call it hypothalamus politics. Or, as one member of the media idiot chorus cheerfully told CNN a few days ago: "Fear works." In a way, this move is even smarter than an actual terrorist attack on American soil -- which al-Qaeda might not have been able to pull off anyway. A real attack would have been an unpredictable gamble. It might have given Bush a huge boost, but it's at least conceivable it would have had the opposite effect, by underscoring the hollowness of the endlessly repeated Republican claim that our cowboy-in-chief has made us all safer. Osama's video bomb, on the other hand, is a brilliant example of "virtual" terrorism. It's perfectly designed to keep the media tape loop spinning from now until next Tuesday, with minimal risk of a backlash. It not only wipes the missing explosives story off the map (that is, until they do the same to some unsuspecting Americans) it also allows the GOP to turn every remaining campaign event into a bin Laden hate rally. It is, in short, the definitive October surprise. What was it Rove said the other day when Sean Hannity asked him about October surprises? "We've got a couple of things we intend to spring." Something like that. Best not to go there. I'm paranoid enough as it is. John Kerry could, and probably will, use the Osama tape to remind the country that, three years and two wars later, the king of the evildoers, the man Sheriff Bush vowed to smoke out of his hole, is still roaming around free somewhere. Maybe the Democrats can recycle that ad they made after the third debate (the one the media ignored because they were still so deeply offended by Kerry's Mary-Cheney-is-a-lesbian gaffe) in which President denied having denied that he was worried about bin Laden's next move. It's worth a try, anyway. But I don't think rational arguments are going to be of much use here. Osama's no slouch at information warfare. I'm sure he understands that the impact of a tape like this one on the mass mind is mainly subliminal, if not hormonal. By plastering his face over every TV in America for the next couple of days, he's given Bush a priceless gift -- a boogeyman with which to frighten that last sliver of undecided voters into rejecting change. Al Qaeda, it seems, has evolved into one hell of an effective 527 organization. billmon.org