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To: Elroy who wrote (209648)	11/1/2004 2:18:18 PM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1570334

Of course, the irony......since WW II, we have been telling the ME what to do. And worse, interfering in their politics, gov'ts and their economies.......many Muslims have died because of our intervention. We supported and aided Saddam at his peak......when he was killing Iraqis by the thousands. You've gone off the deep end again, and need to get back on the boat before the tide comes in. First a little history. The ME was under Ottoman rule (Turkish) for centuries before it was "liberated" by UK/France/USA in WW1. Point #1 - we freed all these ME countries from outside dominance early in 20th century. To say that we have been "telling the ME what to do since WW2" is a touch misleading given the state of their development at the time (most had been "countries" for less than 20 years). Huh? Go back and do your homework.......many of the ME countries became independent between WW I and WWII. Its the North Africa countries that didn't get their independence until the 1960s. I was talking about the ME, not N. Africa. As for our interference in ME politics and governments- There is not a single two party country in the ME (other than Israel), so what "politics" are you refering to? I was talking about the politics between two nation......ie Iraq vs Iran. Pehaps you mean we interfered with the dictators that were busy oppressing their people and agitating the surrounding countries - does that bother you? Yes, it does......when we support a dictator like Saddam in his fight against Iran by giving him military and economic aid. The idea that the US interfering with dictators produces more death than leaving them alone is ridiculous. Do you have any idea how many people died in the Iraqi/Iranian war? Near the end, Iran had run out of older men and was sending in guys as young as 14. Leave Saddam alone - he gasses the Iraqis that object to his leadership, cuts off their ears, tosses them in mass graves. And while he was doing that, Reagan and Bush I were giving him aid. As for our interference in thier economies hurting the ME, you have no idea what you are talking about! The ain "interference" the US has had in ME economies is buying their natural resource (oil). We not only buy it from them, we locate it for them, extract it out of the ground for them, refine it for them, transport it for them and pay them for it. This is why the "expat" populations in the oil rich countries are so high - they didn't have anywhere near the technology necessary to undertake the oil and gas industries on their own. The fact that any of the Gulf countries still have these amazing resources is a testament to the moral leadership of the countries that dominate the world right now. In any other time in history, the ME oil would have been FORCIBLY TAKEN from the bedouin tribespeople by the world power of the time. The world powers were democracies at the time and oil was not as significant a resource until after WW II. Those democracies were reaching the point where unbridled aggression was inappropriate. However, they did control some oil producing countries but eventually were forced to give them their independence. And they did so reluctantly.......to whit, Nigeria vs the Brits; Algeria vs the French etc. BTW I think the US was self sufficient up to the 1960s. many Muslims have died because of our intervention Many Muslims have had much better lives than they would have without the modernizations that the developed world has brought to the region, and Muslims are much bigger killers of Muslims than non-Muslims. Come out of LEFT field! Like most Americans, you don't like OBL telling us what to do.........how do you think Muslims like it when we tell them what to do? ted