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To: Jim Willie CB who wrote (150294)11/1/2004 4:38:23 PM
From: Neocon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
I thought that was more or less what I said, but no matter. I never studied statistics. I just picked up a few concepts along the way, so I am not too worried about it. Getting a better handle on it is always worthwhile, of course.



To: Jim Willie CB who wrote (150294)11/3/2004 10:23:13 PM
From: Bilow  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 281500
 
Hi Jim Willie CB; Re: "... 3% margin of error individually means 4.24% margin of error for the difference ..."

This simply isn't true. You're failing to take into account the obvious fact that among any individual who happens to be in your poll, there is a nearly perfect inverse correlation between votes for Kerry and votes for Bush. Consequently, you can't add percentages with the square root scaling law that applies to differences of independent random variables.

In other words, the sample sets for the two measurements, the Bush vote and the difference vote, are not independent measurements. They are almost perfectly correlated.

Neocon, miraculously, is correct despite his not having studied statistics. If there is a 3% margin of error on the vote for Bush, and the vote is approximately 50% each, then there will be a 6% margin of error in the vote difference between Bush and Kerry.

Hey, you could use the 4.24% figure if you were using different sample sets for the two measurements, but you're not.

-- Carl

P.S. I did study statistics, among other things.