To: AC Flyer who wrote (55503 ) 11/3/2004 4:12:43 PM From: Maurice Winn Respond to of 74559 ACF, <I get a big kick from those who say that Iraq is about cheap oil for America. > On the contrary, Iraq's sanctions were about EXPENSIVE oil for everyone, not just the USA, and the point was profits for the oil guys [and other energy suppliers such as noocular]. Now that oil is over the top in price, it's time to bring Iraqi oil production back on stream, which will also enable Iranian oil to be turned off. There has been a glitch is getting Iraq stable and on-stream, but they're working on it. Iran has got a breathing space. They are going flat out to get noocular bombs before Iraq is stable enough to free the USA to take on Iran next. They are getting China on side to have some UN backing/veto. PNAC Pre-emptive strikes don't require UN support though, so that's no problem. BTW, one year in London was long enough for us. Filthy air from chimneys and diesels [and others], crowds, clouds and gloom. I can only imagine the 1950s smogs. Oil producers do NOT want cheap oil. BP doesn't, Exxon doesn't, Shell doesn't. Nor do the oil states. Nor do the nuclear power producers. Nor do the coal producers. A big import duty would be an easy tax to collect and would generate internal economic activity on alternatives and conservation. The argument against it is economic dislocation while such distortion is built in. It would be far better to develop the UN into the New United Nations, NUN, with a far bigger border and a global economic system. Squabbling among nation states and massive border protection is expensive. A NUN would be like a USA, or EU, made up of many states with common methods for some things such as border protection. The current UN is no such thing. Mqurice