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To: LindyBill who wrote (83782)	11/3/2004 5:06:58 PM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793964

Statement by Admiral Roy Hoffmann, founder of Swift Vets and POWs for Truth Dated: Wednesday, November 03 2004 @ 08:00 AM PST We are pleased with the fact that we were able to effectively bring attention to our issues and raise questions regarding Senator Kerry’s character, leadership ability and qualifications as a potential Commander in Chief. As we have stated since we formed, we believed that John Kerry’s actions in Vietnam, coupled with the reprehensible statements he made after he returned were serious and consequently made him unfit for command. The primary purpose of our organization was to provide a voice for the courageous and honorable veterans of Vietnam, more than 280 Swift Boat Vets, Coast Guardsmen and POWs who served their country with honor. Our national grassroots efforts produced donors in every state in the nation as we raised more than $26 million, with more than $7 million in online contributions. In addition, Swift Boat Veterans and former POW's visited dozens of states to take their message directly to the American people. We were the true embodiment of grassroots citizen action, complied fully with federal election law and had every right to participate in the public discussion of John Kerry's qualifications as Commander in Chief. -- Admiral Roy Hoffmann (ret.) swift4.he.net

To: LindyBill who wrote (83782)	11/3/2004 5:42:04 PM
From: SBHX	Respond to of 793964

The 2000 election myth engineered by Gore Supporters and fed by Farenheit 9/11 --- that Florida was stolen from Gore. I hope future books will set the record straight. Looking at the facts of that election night in 2000, the networks announced Florida for Gore early --- BEFORE polls in the panhandle closed. As word got out, the remaining voters in those areas would not vote and those waiting in line would have no reason to stay and vote. In 2004 these counties went overwhelmingly to Bush. Taking the 4 big counties near the westernmost tip : Escambia, SantaRosa, Okaloosa, and Bay alone, gives us total voters of 141,000;66,000;90,000;75,000 for a total of 372,000 voters. These counties went for Bush by almost 3:1 in 2004. The myth of Bush stealing Florida was a total fabrication. The true culprits were the MSM --- the missing voters in the panhandle would have given Bush a much larger margin of victory beyond the need for recount had they been allowed to vote. The democrats did it to themselves and divided the nation for nothing.

To: LindyBill who wrote (83782)	11/3/2004 6:48:26 PM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 793964

ACE OF SPADES - Gloating On the phone with Son of Nixon right now. The topic? Gloating. This is the best day of my life. Giggling like schoolgirls on happygas. Gloating Highlights: Buzz on Boston talk radio is that Massachusetts SJC Chief Justice Margaret Marshall re-elected George Bush. By demanding that the court take up the gay marriage issue -- and force it on an unwilling population -- she inspired, directly, 11 anti-gay-marriage amendments, some in key states, and one in Ohio. A grateful nation thanks you, Ms. Marshall. Next, whoever put Juan Williams on FoxNews last night deserves a huge bonus. Son of Nixon's favorite moment (which didn't quite happen, but almost did): BRIT: So, Juan. We're giving Florida and Ohio to Bush. What do you think of that? Juan...? Juan...? Are you all right, Juan? Do you want a glass of water, Juan? Howard Stern has apparently turned on erstwhile liberal ally Jon Stewart, asking the key question: "Why would anyone listen to Jon Stewart? He's an idiot, and he's not even funny." Al Franken and Bill Maher are spinning the brutal defeat as good for them, personally. See, they're comedians (or so they say), and a humorously incompetent President like Bush will just make them rich. Yayyyy. The best part: Son of Nixon notes that, in a President's second term, he sort of has to take it easy, because he doesn't want to upset the apple-cart for his Vice President and political heir. In this case, however, neither Bush nor Cheney will ever run for elective office ever again, so Bush is free to pursue, as SoN puts it, "all sorts of crazy-ass shit." The kind of shit that's sooo crazy-ass that even hard-core conservatives say, "Now look here, Old Bean. I'm all for unilateralism and all, but I don't know if we can just invade a country for 'looking at us funny'." That level of absolutely lunatic wingnut shit. That's what I'm all about. And the liberals are going to hate it.