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To: whitepine who wrote (22155)	11/3/2004 11:25:58 PM
From: The Ox	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23153

Hi whitepine, I don't disagree with your points on the nature of advertising and the choices being made by the media to pepper the nation with "boner ads". I completely agree with you that most people don't want their children being constantly bombarded with these. I don't want it either. I don't see how electing GWB vs Kerry will change this? Maybe you are right and the media will get a clue to what middle America would prefer to see. I doubt it, since they are catering to their sponsors, NOT to the public. I also don't see how legislation needs to be created to fix this situation? I don't see how the above discussion should be directly linked to "gay marriage" or hip-hop(read music). Maybe the majority of white people out in middle America don't want to be bothered with artists from another race(ie hip-hop) and can't understand why someone might consider it music or art as opposed to calling it pornography? There are some pretty big leaps that are happening trying to link all evils to Hollywood or the media. Maybe because I live in a major city it's different for this observer but I find it hard to nicely package these separate issues into one big "evil" ball, soon to be tossed in the garbage (neatly out of sight) by some miraculous upcoming legislation!

To: whitepine who wrote (22155)	11/4/2004 7:53:48 AM
From: bull_derrick	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23153

I agree with Whitepine. I think most people in the interior are turned off when TV puts two guys kissing in their family's living room. Would you invite two guys into your living room in person to kiss each other in front of your kids? I think this was one of the supreme miscalculations of the Democratic party. They reads polls indicating that the majority of Americans felt the country was heading in the wrong direction and took that to mean there was great dissatisfaction with Bush. In fact, and I can speak for myself only here, the country is headed in the wrong direction when gays are being married, my company has started issuing health benefits to people that are shacked up and the courts seem to be more interested in making law from the bench than enforcing the laws that we already have. If you don't believe that paragraph is true based on Bush's reelection, I can only point to the defeat of Daschle who was painted as an obstructionist to these viewpoints in his interior state. Daschle had the advantage of an incumbent and didn't have the millstone of Iraq hung around him like Bush. Despite that, on the social issues, South Dakota voters found him guilty as charged and tossed him out. There was a movie I watched on TV about six months ago staged in the 50's. The movie started out in black and white and as people became liberated throughout the movie, they began to see in color. It was a strong political statement that Hollywood was trying to make. In the end, I think people wouldn't mind a simpler time. Where there immoral things going on in the 50's. Yes, but they weren't beamed into our living rooms for our children to watch.