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To: sandintoes who wrote (20177)	11/4/2004 11:39:23 AM
From: Oeconomicus	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

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To: sandintoes who wrote (20177)	11/4/2004 2:53:35 PM
From: Selectric II	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

Unbelievable. geode appears to be a madman. And he's found company... New thread: Is Secession Doable? ------------------------------- To: zofsilence who wrote (7) 11/4/2004 2:01:59 AM From: geode00 Mark as Last Read \| Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 14 Who says it isn't serious? The country is deeply divided and we are in the voting minority. There are only a handful of solutions: 1. Win elections by getting out rational propaganda to red states 2. Create a popular uprising 3. Divide from the red southern states Does 3 have a ring to it? It sounds an awful lot like the problem in Iraq. If we can't solve Iraq's Sunni-Kurd-Shite-Christian-Muslim mess, how will it go in the USA where neighborhoods are divided house-by-house. The trick is MEDIA PROPAGANDA that DEFEATS the right-wing radicals before they destroy the USA. Propaganda is everything. Goebbels understood that, we've just forgotten it. The first BIG FIGHT is the Supreme Court. It's coming really soon as Rehnquist apparently has terminal cancer. ----------------------------------- To: tejek who wrote (12) 11/4/2004 2:14:59 AM From: geode00 Mark as Last Read \| Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 16 It's the propaganda, stupid should be the new slogan. The media has been over run by the right-wing and we need to take it back. The vote was close enough, just 100,000 or so smarter people in Ohio would have pushed it over the correct edge. Therefore, propaganda day afer day, year after year painting the right-wing as what they are: pure evil. That's what the right-wing has been doing for at least a generation and it's finally reached its apex in the imbecile radical insane sociopath loser Bush. It's our turn now to take over the radio dials, the net, the print media, everything to SAVE THE USA from Bush AKA Satan. It takes everyone pushing in churches, schools, organizations, corporations, neighbors everywhere every day for years to get it done. We're very close and we CAN DO IT and we MUST DO IT. It's been done before. Evil only triumphs when good people stand by and do nothing. --------------------- To: zofsilence who wrote (13) 11/4/2004 2:21:28 AM From: geode00 Mark as Last Read \| Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 17 Propaganda is simply a methodology. The IDEOLOGY is different. People can be persuaded that the moon IS made of green cheese if the right people say it in the right way often enough. PROPAGANDA WORKS. Do most people think that eggs are bad for you? Do most people think that Coke is more than sugared carbonated water? Do most people think that bottled water is 'better' than tap water? People WILL believe anything. The thing they need to believe is this: - Bush is not a conservative, he's a radical out to loot the US Treasury, create a Darwinian USA that will resemble the autocratic mess that is Russia. Ronald Reagan is spinning in his grave. - Bush is creating an economic disaster area out of the USA. Your children will have to work 4 jobs to have the standard of living that your parents had with 1 income. Bush et al will sell off all manufacturing and high tech jobs to other China and India for corporate profits. - etc. etc. Repeat daily year after year into the ears of the red state morons. This is what the right-wing has been doing FOR A GENERATION. -------------------- To: geode00 who wrote (14) 11/4/2004 2:22:40 AM From: tejek Mark as Last Read \| Respond to of 17 It's the propaganda, stupid should be the new slogan. The media has been over run by the right-wing and we need to take it back. Not true........the media is simply reflecting the reality. Granted the whole nation has not become fundamentalists but a good percentage has.......and they have successfully elected a president twice in 4 years and they now dominate Congress. There are people out there who believe Viagra commercials literally are corrupting our morality. The vote was close enough, just 100,000 or so smarter people in Ohio would have pushed it over the correct edge. Therefore, propaganda day afer day, year after year painting the right-wing as what they are: pure evil. What you call the media......these people do not read. They have their own media.......and that media feeds them with half lies. It twists and turns things so that the mainstream media looks to be lying. That's what the right-wing has been doing for at least a generation and it's finally reached its apex in the imbecile radical insane sociopath loser Bush. It's our turn now to take over the radio dials, the net, the print media, everything to SAVE THE USA from Bush AKA Satan. Can we do it that way.....or do we have to secede? That's the question on the table. It takes everyone pushing in churches, schools, organizations, corporations, neighbors everywhere every day for years to get it done. We're very close and we CAN DO IT and we MUST DO IT. It's been done before. Evil only triumphs when good people stand by and do nothing. A lot of good people got behind Kerry. We seen the results! ted ------------------------- To: geode00 who wrote (15) 11/4/2004 2:25:15 AM From: zofsilence Mark as Last Read \| Respond to of 17 >Repeat daily year after year into the ears of the red state morons. This is what the right-wing has been doing FOR A GENERATION. They care more about dudes kissing than they do about their jobs. -Z