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Politics : Is Secession Doable? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: SilentZ who wrote (22)	11/4/2004 3:00:06 AM
From: geode00	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1968

It was a fradulent election. Just 100,000 or so Ohioans would have flipped the results. The numbers in Florida don't make sense. I'm for actually WINNING THE WAR. The right-wing has done its job over a generation and the moderates and progressives have been sitting on their hands. There is a cult mentality that has infested the USA. There's a vaccine and a cure for it: it's called PROPAGANDA. If you can figure out how to divide up Iraq which is less than 1/10th our size and also has deep divisions then you can apply that to the US.

To: SilentZ who wrote (22)	11/4/2004 9:16:36 AM
From: combjelly	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1968

"no it's the media propaganda that still have 62% of Americans believing that Saddam was involved in 911" Z, thanks for inviting me over here. Yes. But the tools for an alternative media are in place. Build on sites like factcheck.org, snopes and others. Use stuff that is actually, verifiably true. No spin even if it hurts. Don't rely on blogs, they are the talk radio equivalent. As far as secession goes, that probably is a non-starter for a number of reasons. Economics is one. The national economy is way too intertwined to pull it off without a lot of pain. Politics is another. You'd just give them an excuse for martial law. Here in Texas the issue pops up every few years. The latest was over at the FreeRepublic where the idea of Texas seceding and converting to a pure Libertarian form of government was seriously discussed. And in Texas, there even might be a legal basis for secession, there isn't for the blus states. Look on a map and see where the military bases are... If you can get the media to report actual facts, it is possible to win over them. It happened here for our representative. Arlene Wohlgemuth ran a dirty campaign against Chet Edwards. Not only did she try to paint Chet as a liberal, she totally distorted his record. The touch I liked is that she promised she would be Bush's representative in the House. Excuse me, I am supposed to vote for you so you can represent someone else? All of her signs pushed a connection with Bush. But she lost. A big factor was that the local media took her to task on her claims.