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To: kodiak_bull who wrote (22183)	11/4/2004 12:56:51 PM
From: bull_derrick	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23153

Kodiak, the other thing the Dems should recognize is that the demographics put more electoral votes in the South and Southwest. The census shift this decade took 8 votes out of the North and put them into the South. Agreed with the cultural division thing. My company has HQ in Long Island. The HR director added paid benefits to "domestic partners" for homosexuals and unmarrieds this year. She was absolutely astonished that people in Maryland at our facility had problems with that. She told our local HR manager that she couldn't believe people still thought that way in this day and age. This goes to the very lack of empathy and dismissal of legitimate viewpoints that the left holds for the right. The feeling is that since I am conservative and a Christian and hold to moral values, that I'm an idiot and shouldn't vote (as you described Katie's view) and that isn't accurate. While I don't really care what Katie thinks and will vote accordingly, I have an Engineering degree and an MBA and am far from being an idiot. That contempt is very clear in the message that the left sends to the right, especially through their media and Hollywood arms. I'm sure the conservatives send their own messages and we're guilty of polarizing behaviors also although I probably am as blind to that as they are to their own offensive behaviors. As a reaction to the left's power through media, we are starting to see a conservative push into media. It started with talk radio and Fox through Murdoch was the next step. The commercial success of Passion of the Christ after the liberal media jumped all over Mel Gibson is just another step in that development.

To: kodiak_bull who wrote (22183)	11/4/2004 1:17:26 PM
From: cnyndwllr	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 23153

Kodiak, please note that even in the most conservative southern states around 1/3 of the votes were for Kerry. Look at the other elections there, look at the words of their candidates and then tell me that area of the country doesn't tend to be more ignorant. You cannot blindly label all voters in a region as backwards and ignorant. I do think, however, that many more voters in the south tend to be less educated than in the west, the north or the northeast, and I think that's proven out by statistics. Have you ever spent time in a place like southern Ohio or Kentucky; I have. Having said that, I note that my own county in the west was more pro Bush than Oklahoma. The reason; strong fundamental Christians make up a great percentages of the voters. We'll soon arrive at a place where politicians become as phoney in terms of religious convictions as the snake oil evangelicals on late night television asking viewers to send in a few of their last dollars and relating stories of previous givers who then "got jobs..won the lottery..recovered from cancer, etc.." Or do you personally buy into the magical thinking idea that every word of the bible is gospel, that God works through Bush and that a leader acting pursuant to such thinking will chart a better path than one listening to experts and exercising informed, realistic and intelligent reasoning? Ed