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Politics : Is Secession Doable? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: SilentZ who wrote (122)	11/4/2004 1:51:05 PM
From: geode00	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1968

As I said, this is on the wrong thread if you've given up due to Conservative Pressure. I'm just answering your post to me. It was awesomely close: A Massachusetts Liberal Senator with a foreign born multimillionaire wife and a crappy campaign staff and a terrible political analyst in his camp who said to take the 'high road' against an incumbent wartime president with the best political operation and a take-no-prisoners attitude and more money than ever. Bush should have had a landslide and he DIDN'T. He came within a 100,000 or so votes in OHIO of LOSING. Do you see how the conservative corporate media is twisting your mind even now? They're saying: give it up, you're defeated. utter BS. They were sweating until halfway throught the 2nd.

To: SilentZ who wrote (122)	11/4/2004 1:56:09 PM
From: miraje	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1968

Having a contingency plan is always a good idea. Did you take a look at this map? usatoday.com Outside of New England, even states that voted blue had a majority of counties that voted red. CA, OR and WA in particular are real eye openers. Other than the major urban counties, the GOP carried the vote... I can sympathize with your feelings of being disenfranchised, but dreams of secession are realistically a pie in the sky fantasy. Strengthening States Rights, as formulated in our constitution, should be a goal of the Dems instead of being fought, as is their current position. Although I held my nose and voted for Bush, I'll be the first to join street protests if any attempt to re-instate the draft is initiated. I'll also vigorously oppose any attempt to overturn Roe v Wade and will continue to strongly object to the civil liberties infringements that are contained in the current version of the Patriot Act.