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To: geode00 who wrote (510)11/4/2004 6:04:21 PM
From: StockDung  Respond to of 1449
 
He had the alias in 1997



To: geode00 who wrote (510)11/4/2004 6:04:39 PM
From: StockDung  Respond to of 1449
 
DRAMA BEHIND KERRY DECISION

By STEFAN C. FRIEDMAN Post Correspondent

November 4, 2004 -- BOSTON — Three hours after he woke up in his 19th-century Federalist townhouse on Louisbourg Square, Sen. John Kerry was told his lifelong dream to become the president of the United States had died in Columbus, Ohio.
The news came in a phone call from Mary Beth Cahill, Ted Kennedy's hard-nosed chief-of-staff, who took over Kerry's floundering campaign in the primaries, when all but his most loyal supporters had written him off.

It was 10 a.m. She was in the "boiler room" of the Westin Hotel off Copley Square, where a gaggle of advisers had stayed up all night crunching numbers and plotting how to take back Ohio from inevitable defeat.

But there was no way around it — there were just too many votes for Bush on the ballots being counted in the statehouse in Columbus.

Kerry was surrounded, as he often is, by his family — wife Teresa, daughters Alex and Vanessa, brother Cameron and stepson Andre Heinz.

Sen. Kennedy and his wife, Victoria, were there, as were David Thorne, Kerry's former brother-in-law and closest friend.

When Cahill told him the numbers didn't add up, the candidate's reaction was immediate — he told her to put together a plan for a graceful concession.

Kerry's family was devastated. The legion of Democratic lawyers and operatives on the ground were eager to mount a challenge.

Kerry's running mate, the boyish John Edwards, said they shouldn't concede, the fight wasn't over.

But the more mature, 60-year-old Kerry would have none of it.



"He instantly made the decision that he didn't want to put the country through any lengthy litigation," Cahill said later. "To go forward [with a lawsuit] in a time of war — that was something he didn't want to do."

Kerry's decision ended a 20-hour roller-coaster ride that began long on hope and ended just a little short in a state the campaign believed it could win right up until the end.

Arriving in Boston on Election Day afternoon, Kerry's team was riding a wave of momentum, culminating with the release of exit polls showing the Massachusetts senator leading in nearly every battleground state.

Kerry — famed for being a good "closer," a guy who wins it in the waning hours — went straight to work. He hunkered down at the Westin and did a mind-numbing 38 local TV interviews over the course of four hours. Then he went back to the townhouse on Beacon Hill.

There, he had dinner with his family and settled back to watch the returns with them, friends and Cahill.

At the nearby Westin, Kerry strategists settled in for a long night. He talked to friends and colleagues as he watched the returns.

Early optimism began to fade at about 11 p.m., when Florida began to break for Bush and all thoughts of an easy victory disappeared.

Cahill rushed back to the Westin to start plotting. But after midnight, Florida was called — and the freefall began.

As more and more states came back as expected, all eyes moved to Ohio. Just in case, Kerry had his motor cade waiting outside his home to whisk him at any moment to Boston's Copley Place for a concession speech, but his team wasn't ready to give up just yet.

"We thought we had a very good chance of winning the raw vote total," Cahill said. "And [we felt that] if we had those provisional votes counted, we were in position to take control of the race."

Cahill sent out the now-famous statement: "The vote count in Ohio has not been completed. There are more than 250,000 remaining votes to be counted. We believe when they are, John Kerry will win Ohio."

It was 2 a.m. The candidate went to sleep shortly after conferring with Kennedy.

Edwards took over, addressing what was supposed to be a victory party in Copley Square. He sounded hollow, like he was trying to convince himself, when he said they would not concede Ohio — and, therefore, the election — for at least a few more hours.

"We've waited four years for this victory. We can wait one more night," he said.

But most already saw where the election was headed.

Rocker Jon Bon Jovi — who had traveled extensively with Kerry— sat behind the hustings at the Copley event with his head in his hands.

"Backstage was like a funeral," recalled one source.

Shortly before 3 a.m., Kerry operatives said the campaign would go dark for the night.

Kerry awoke four hours later — and immediately went back to work. At his request, Democratic lawyers in Ohio and Washington prepared to go to court in the Buckeye State to challenge the counting procedure.

But then it became clear the numbers were overwhelming. The Democrats determined that their earlier estimate that 250,000 provisional ballots had not been counted was extremely optimistic.

After the final 10 Ohio counties reported their provisional-ballot counts, the total was closer to 140,000.

That number was just 1,000 more than Bush's margin of victory in the state. It "was a margin that we could not make up," Cahill said.

Less than an hour later, despite the pleas of some lawyers and advisers, Kerry called Bush to say congratulations and plead for unity.

Three hours later — just more than 24 hours after Kerry arrived home and patted the ground at Hanscom Air Force Base — the Democratic nominee went to Faneuil Hall to concede.

Strategists, aides, staffers and family were still stunned — some openly cried, others just drooped from exhaustion and disappointment.

"It sort of slid away slowly over the course of the evening and then the morning," said a visibly upset Bob Shrum, Kerry's senior adviser.

Following the speech, the frustration of Kerry's daughters, who teared up during the concession after tirelessly stumping for their father, exploded backstage in a diatribe full of F-words.

It was Kerry himself who managed to stay the most composed in his hour of defeat.

"He's been great," Shrum said simply.

A crowd of thousands gathered outside Faneuil Hall to see him off. They cheered. He pumped his fist in the air.

He still has four more years left in his current Senate term — and aides are not surprised that he's eager to get back to work.



To: geode00 who wrote (510)11/4/2004 7:45:33 PM
From: StockDung  Respond to of 1449
 
RODHAM WATCH Hillary hailed to beat GOP Sen. Clinton already being promoted as heir apparent to rescue Democrats

Posted: November 4, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern

By Joe Kovacs
© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y.

Even as President Bush was declaring victory and John Kerry conceded defeat yesterday, news agencies in the U.S. and around the world began splashing the name of Hillary Clinton as the future of the Democratic Party.

The New York Sun proclaimed: "It's Ka-ching for Hillary." The Sydney Morning Herald reported: "Watch out, here comes Clinton."

And Mac McLarty, former chief of staff for President Bill Clinton, said on the Fox News Channel that Hillary was easily the front-runner for 2008, calling her "formidable."

While the senator from New York has not made any new comment regarding the next presidential election cycle, it is widely believed she will seek the White House.

Sean Hannity

"Oh, she's in," said conservative talk-show host Sean Hannity on his national radio program yesterday. "We're beginning our Hillary Watch – 1,460 days until Hillary runs for office. And she can't win either, but I don't think anyone has the heart to tell her."

As WorldNetDaily reported last November, Sen. Clinton acknowledged to a German magazine she was aware people were disappointed she wasn't a 2004 candidate, but hinted that could change for 2008.

"Well, perhaps I'll do it next time around," she said.

"Hillary Clinton is the natural heir apparent" of Bill, said Allan Lichtman, a political science professor at American University in Washington, according to Agence France-Presse.

The speculation has already turned into a money-wagering venture as a Press Association of Britain headline reads: "Hillary Clinton is bookies' 2008 favorite."

"The wife of former President Bill Clinton was installed at 5-1 by Ladbrokes and 6-1 by William Hill to take over from Mr. Bush after his second term," states the article.

Oddsmakers put former New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani at 7-1, Kerry running mate John Edwards at 8-1, and longshots Dick Cheney at 50-1 and California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger at 66-1.

Rudy Giuliani

Regarding Giuliani, there's been discussion he would challenge Mrs. Clinton for her New York Senate seat in the 2006 election, before any matchup for the White House two years later.

"Two well-placed GOP insiders say it's 'basically a done deal,'" wrote John Ellis, a partner in a venture capital firm in New York City and first cousin to Florida Gov. Jeb Bush. "This would be the Super Bowl of Senate races and a dramatic 'wild card' lead-in to the 2008 presidential election. Only one of the principals could advance to the next level."

Giuliani sought to run against Mrs. Clinton in 2000, but withdrew from the race as he underwent a personal battle against prostate cancer.

Internet messageboards like Lucianne.com are logging new comments from readers about a potential 2008 run by Mrs. Clinton.

Some of the postings include:

"If you think the media rolled over for Kerry, wait until Hillary throws her lingerie into the ring. The media, who have given her a pass over voting scandals, pardons, futures fraud, and failure to comply with court orders, have shown that they will say anything, write anything and do anything required to smooth her path."

"The 'Run Hillary Run' bumper stickers are already out. Democrats put them on their rear bumper, Republicans on their front."
No matter who leads the Democratic Party, analysts say members need to reflect on their message, since Republicans were able to increase their leads in both the U.S. House and Senate.

"Clearly the country is still divided," Democratic strategist Steve Jarding told the Christian Science Monitor. "But it seems it's a little less divided than it was in 2000. And for Democrats, it's going in the wrong direction."

Even Democrat operative James Carville realized the need for reassessment, telling the Associated Press,"We didn't do that well in 2000, we didn't do that well in 2002 and we haven't done that well in '04, so I think it's necessary that we go through some tough times now and look at what we're doing and where we're going as a political party."

MSNBC writer Tom Curry opined the Democrats clearly have an opening for a new national leader, and suggested they consider running a classified ad:

"Wanted: Articulate, vigorous and optimistic Democrat with impeccable national security/anti-terrorism credentials. Also must possess a demonstrated capacity to win votes in Southern and border states. Any resemblance to Franklin Roosevelt would be highly advantageous."

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Joe Kovacs is executive news editor for WorldNetDaily.com.



To: geode00 who wrote (510)11/4/2004 7:49:30 PM
From: StockDung  Respond to of 1449
 
PUCKER UP TO HILLARY IN 2008, KERRY HER OFF TO VICTORY!! us.news2.yimg.com

COULD BE THE DEMS SLOGAN IN 08



To: geode00 who wrote (510)11/5/2004 2:25:10 PM
From: Mark Konrad  Respond to of 1449
 
How did all that weeping and crying turn out? Was it the flu or just a mild cold? Did you manage to give my best to Tom Ridge during your "report?" Thanks again for all your best wishes and kind words!--MK--



To: geode00 who wrote (510)11/6/2004 10:25:54 PM
From: StockDung  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1449
 
Clintons Ruined Vaccine Industry

October 14, 2004


Listen to Rush…
(...explain how the Clintons nationalization of vaccines ruined our health care)

BEGIN TRANSCRIPT

Last night, ladies and gentlemen, ( transcript | video ) the president of the United States was asked about flu vaccine and what's the problem, how come we have a shortage, and he gave an answer that was half complete and, frankly, I was sitting on the edge of the chair when I saw this because I thought, "Uh-oh, with one pitch here Kerry has a chance, with one swing, to hit two grand slams with one swing," and he missed it. He missed it. Everybody talks about what a great debater Kerry is, but he got a chance to respond to Bush's answer on the shortage of flu vaccines. Stop and think of this: President of the United States said to America last night: If you're young or a child, don't get a flu shot. That is a sitting duck, I'm sorry, for John Kerry.

"This is what it's come to in America," he could have said. "We're the richest country in the world, got the greatest health care system in the world and the President of the United States has to tell you not to take a flu shot? Just take the risk?" He didn't say it. You know what he did? He launched into some talking points about health care. What is all this talk about him being a great debater? This is one of the greatest missed opportunities in this whole series of three debates. However, what I want to talk to you about is this flu shortage, and I want you to know why it exists, the flu vaccine shortage. There's an editorial in the Wall Street Journal today, and after I read the first two paragraphs, the old memory lights went on there, and the little gray cells, and I said, "Oh, yeah. Bam! I had forgotten about this."

You know, there is a debate versus reality is what you could say this was last night. Half the vaccine we need, serious shortage of flu shots, half the vaccine we need was lost. It was contaminated, had to throw it down the drain. A British pharmaceutical plant goofed up, made a mistake, and so we were importing it from this company in Britain, and it's no good. We can't use it. Now, this is bad news, this is horrible news to our young and old could save our health delivery system from liberal ideas that sound good but don't work. This instance, this reality, ironically, that we are short of a flu vaccine is the best medicine that we could get right now for fixing this problem and to illustrate how our health delivery system in the hands of liberals sounds great but doesn't work. Do you remember something called the Clinton Government Vaccine Buying Program?


It was sold to us as a way to get prices down and get more children vaccinated and, of course, to keep the evil drug companies from making a profit. The Wall Street Journal says today, "Companies that decided to run these regulatory traps also know that they'll be doing so for very little reward. Before her big health care reform crashed and burned in '94, Hillary Rodham Rodham managed to get Congress to pass a government vaccine buying program for children. Her sales pitch was free vaccines for all kids and higher immunization rates. If we would give this stuff away, she said, more children would be immunized." Oh, goody, wonderful, wonderful. Thus, as a result of Hillary's plan, the government now purchases about 60% of all pediatric vaccines, forcing huge discounts and imposing price caps. The manufacturers were told, ''You can only make so much profit, and you're gonna make this amount, and we're gonna give it away.''

What all this did was screw up the whole private sector mechanism of manufacturing and distributing vaccines. In 2001, the private sector cost of immunizing children with the 20 recommended doses of vaccines was $600 per child. The government price was just $400 per child, with the vaccine makers swallowing the difference. What has this achieved? Vaccination rates for two-year-olds have stagnated at about 74% for the past several years while adult rates are significantly lower, and with the profit margin squeeze to practically zero, some manufacturers have simply said, "We're not making the stuff anymore. It doesn't make sense. We've got this government program that tells us the maximum we can charge, regardless what it costs to make, we're going to be threatened with lawsuits the first time somebody gets sick for whatever vaccine. Screw it!"

And that's why American companies are out of the business and why we have to import vaccines from Great Britain, a combination of Hillary's plan that put a cap on profits, put a cap on prices, and nothing to do with the manufacture price. You combine that with the fact that these manufacturers are subject to constant lawsuits and they said, "Screw it. We're not going to make the stuff anymore," and that's why there is a shortage. This can be traced back to Hillary Clinton's great sounding, compassionate idea, to make sure that every child had a flu shot and every child had a vaccination against various childhood diseases. Well, the fact is only 74% of kids do because there's not enough vaccine. This is not the first real shortage, but because American manufacturers have thrown up their hands and said, "It makes no sense. We are in business, and we don't give things away, and we're certainly not going to take a loss on this."

So they just simply got out of the business. In addition to that, one of the companies that remained and stayed in business was a company called Chiron. They're being sued left and right over financial problems that have nothing to do with the quality of their vaccine. I'm not going to detail what those problems are because it's not relevant, but they're being targeted now. So that's another manufacturer that has put up their hands and said, "Whoa, it isn't worth all this," and so that's why we have to import from Britain, and, lo and behold, they had a company that ended up with their flu vaccines contaminated. Half the supply had to be dumped and this is where we are. We have "outsourced" flu vaccines, essentially, to use a John Kerry word because of Mrs. Clinton's great-sounding program -- remember the name -- the government vaccine buying program.


The vaccine rate did not increase. It drove our vaccine manufacturers out of the business of manufacturing vaccines. The squeeze on profits sounded good to a lot of people because everybody knows that pharmaceutical companies make obscene profits and the money goes to Halliburton and Cheney, but they got out of business rather than sounding good. The fear of crippling lawsuits -- not the lawsuits themselves, just the fear -- the fear of lawsuits drove vaccine makers out of business. The complications of overregulation drove vaccine makers out of business and now John Kerry says, "Where's the vaccine?" Well, don't ask me, folks, ask the liberals! Ask Hillary Clinton! Ask Bill Clinton. They told us, they told themselves, that price caps and centralized buying would make things better. What we end up with is a vaccine mess, but liberals don't apologize. They repeat their mistakes again and again.

Now John Kerry wants price caps and centralized buying prescription drugs and sooner or later on all of health care, and what's even worse, the same people who were taken in by the vaccine pipe dream are now cheering this prescription drug pipe dream. If you buy it, a pox on your face! I shouldn't say that. Just a little attempt at humor, but here's the way to look at this, and I'm using the word "greedy" here advisedly, to make a point. One greedy drug manufacturer with one "greedy drug" has saved more lives than all the liberal politicians combined, because liberal politicians when they get their hands on the health care system or any element of it, that business ends up being damaged to the point that the people in it throw up their hands and quit because there's no profit in it. There's only the fear of lawsuits, and more hassle than it is worth. The Clintons were notorious for two tactics: They took credit for anything good; they made a mountain out of the slightest little molehill. One of the tiniest little problems were called "crises" which demanded massive government action and that's how this vaccine business got started.

"A small number of kids didn't get vaccines because they could not afford." Hillary said, "That's just not right." Bammo! Now half the country has to not take a flu shot because of Hillary Clinton. Have you, by the way, why neither Bill nor Hillary ever mentioned or took credit for this government vaccine buying program? They're all about writing their legacy out there. The Clintons are trying to take credit for everybody that happened in the nineties that was good. Why don't we hear about this government vaccine buying program, hmm? Well, thanks to the Wall Street Journal editorial today called Infection Politics, I now know why. The plan sounded good enough to those who don't understand the real world. Government buys vaccines in bulk; government negotiates lowers prices -- read that: a cap on profits -- and the lower prices will lead to more vaccinations. Why don't the Clintons ever mention it? Why don't they want kudos for their plan? Because it didn't work, it did no good, and as we know now, it's caused a lot of harm.

END TRANSCRIPT



To: geode00 who wrote (510)11/6/2004 10:34:02 PM
From: StockDung  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1449
 
I will tell you one thing about Jebb Bush. He better clean up Florida of all the Boiler Rooms and Stock Scams by 2008 if he wants to run for President.

Florida is now the Scam Boiler Room capital of the World with headquarters in the stock scam promoters heaven known as Boca Raton Florida.



To: geode00 who wrote (510)11/6/2004 11:30:05 PM
From: StockDung  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1449
 
US job gains strongest in seven months
Reuters

New US jobs soared at the sharpest rate in seven months in October, the government reported yesterday, helped by a surge in construction activity as hurricane-battered areas in the Southeast were rebuilt.

A surprisingly strong 337,000 jobs were added to payrolls last month - twice the 169,000-job growth that Wall Street economists had forecast and the strongest since March when 353,000 jobs were created, the Labor Department said.

Still, the unemployment rate edged up to 5.5 per cent from 5.4 per cent in September, but that was because more people joined the search for employment, a potentially hopeful sign.

Not only was October a strong month but the number of jobs created in the two prior months was revised up - to 139,000 in September instead of 96,000 and to 198,000 in August instead of 128,000.

The dollar, which has been under pressure, strengthened broadly on the news while bond prices weakened in the expectation that a resurgent labour market may foster higher interest rates and that investors may favour stocks.






To: geode00 who wrote (510)11/7/2004 2:47:54 PM
From: StockDung  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1449
 
Suicide suspected at WTC site Friends say man was distraught over election results

Sunday, November 7, 2004 Posted: 9:48 AM EST (1448 GMT)
NEW YORK (AP) -- A 25-year-old from Georgia who was distraught over President Bush's re-election apparently killed himself at ground zero.

Andrew Veal's body was found Saturday morning inside the off-limits area of the former World Trade Center site, said Steve Coleman, a spokesman for the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey.

A shotgun was found nearby, but no suicide note was found, Coleman said.

Veal's mother said her son was upset about the result of the presidential election and had driven to New York, Gus Danese, president of the Port Authority Police Benevolent Association, told The New York Times in Sunday's editions.

Friends said Veal worked in a computer lab at the University of Georgia and was planning to marry.

"I'm absolutely sure it's a protest," Mary Anne Mauney, Veal's supervisor at the lab, told The Daily News. "I don't know what made him commit suicide, but where he did it was symbolic."

Police were investigating how Veal entered the former World Trade Center site, which is protected by high fences and owned by the Port Authority.



To: geode00 who wrote (510)11/8/2004 11:16:46 AM
From: StockDung  Respond to of 1449
 
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