To: Scripts who wrote (21827 ) 11/5/2004 10:30:11 AM From: sea_urchin Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 80963 Ed, I'm responding just to give you a few refs and quotes in support of point 2 (rigging of the election). newstarget.com >>... a mysterious "5% advantage" goes to Bush only in those states using electronic voting machines. Or, put another way, all the exit polls showed Kerry winning, and the exit polls asked people who they actually voted for. But strangely, the "official" count appears to have been boosted in favor of Bush. Another burning question is surfacing: if this was such a record turnaround, with long lines all over the country, where did all the votes go? Because the vote totals don't show much of a difference from the 2000 election. It's as if a few million votes just vanished... Just to make things even more frustrating for Democratics, the e-voting machines have no way to offer a meaningful recount of votes. As this WIRED article explains, the machines leave no paper trail. The votes are recorded as mere bits and bytes, meaning there's really no way to tell how the people actually voted in the first place. (Only in America could we decide our national elections with the aid of voting machines that leave no paper trail.) <<socialistworker.org >>But even without a "scrub" list, the potential for fraud and disenfranchisement in Florida remains high in 2004. Dr. Brigalia Bam, an international election observer from South Africa who recently toured Florida, was shocked to find a hodgepodge of election rules and exceptions to those rules. "All these different systems in different counties with no accountability," said Bam. "It’s like the poorest village in Africa."<<mosnews.com >>A Russian parliamentarian taking part in international monitoring of the U.S. presidential elections has said that the elections were held in violation of U.S. law and that that he was shocked after seeing how the elections were held. The Interfax news agency cited State Duma deputy Aleksei Ostrovsky of the Liberal Democratic Party as saying that he was shocked by the way the elections were held in the U.S. “In my opinion there are possibilities to forge the elections results and these possibilities are caused by serious, as we see it, violations of the electoral law,” the MP said in a telephone interview. The parliamentarian noted that primarily he was shocked by the fact that U.S. citizens do not produce any ID as they come to polling stations. “It is enough to say ’I am Mr. Smith,’ and he is allowed to vote; the same person can exit one polling station and go to another and vote again using the same procedure,” the Russian MP said. << And also a short video:archive.org You may not wish to accept it but there's no smoke without a fire.