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To: Karen Lawrence who wrote (600)	11/5/2004 10:52:50 AM
From: Oeconomicus	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 362819

"it was the numbers produced by paperless voting machines that were wrong" Show me a "paperless voting machine".

To: Karen Lawrence who wrote (600)	11/5/2004 10:57:03 AM
From: Oeconomicus	Respond to of 362819

"odd discrepancy in exit polls being largely accurate in paper-ballot states and oddly inaccurate in touch-screen electronic voting states" LOL. Palast's conspiracy theory was just the opposite. To him, exit polls "prove" cheating in Ohio, which uses punch cards. You guys should at least coordinate your conspiracy mongering if you want anyone to fall for it. Sheesh! Can't run a campaign for anything, can you?

To: Karen Lawrence who wrote (600)	11/5/2004 11:06:29 AM
From: Mao II	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 362819

"Beware: Scandal may taint paper-ballot systems" Votegate 2004 is set up as a win-win for the current victor. First, he "wins" the election. Second, overzealous protesters compare exit polls andblame overvotes on the winner's favorite voting method: touch screen voting. Third, cooler heads begin to report that touch screen actually looks pretty clean, and evidence suggests no major tampering. Critics lose a little credibility, have harder time proving fraud or getting listened to. Fourth, shocking evidence of fraud emerges from voting methods with a paper trail: optically scanned ballots in Florida Ohio? Because these are the voting systems endorsed by critics, they lose more credibility, and job of persuading public gets tougher. Fifth, nobody can prove Bush or Karl Rove did it, and Bush pushes for election reform because of abuses "on both sides." Sixth, Congress passes more election reforms, banning vote machines with paper ballots and receipts after news reports question the integrity of the vote they produced, but no one is ever prosecuted or conclusively fingered as the perpetrator. Seventh, we're stuck with the worst-possible voting system. blackboxvoting.org