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Politics : Is Secession Doable? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: tejek who wrote (517)	11/5/2004 5:39:56 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (5) \| Respond to of 1968

The South was the breakaway section in the 1860s. Exactly. And now its the South who wants the North to stay. The North weren't pushovers back then and they won't be now.now........assuming they want to secede. They wouldn't want to secede but if they did (and you didn't have civil wars withing each of the states on the issue) they wouldn't be pushovers. But the Red states are not just the South. There are quite a few central and Northern states that voted for Bush. "The CSA didn't include states like Ohio, Indiana, Kentucky, Kansas, Iowa, West Virginia and Missouri, to count only the states that existed at that time. (14 Red States and 5 Blue States didn't exist back then)." I don't understand your point. The "Red States" and the CSA aren't the same states. None of the old CSA states are "blue", but a number of the old Union States are Red, and more of the new states that were not around at the time of the Civil War were Red. Here is a picture that shows each state based on the size of its population. Its colored blue if Gore won the State and Red if Bush won it in 2000. There is more red than blue and Bush won more states this time. They don't count FLA as Red but they did make NM blue (even though the vote there was even closer) this time they should both be Red. Also the population has probably shifted slightly to the Red states. The Union had a population advantage. The "blue states" have a disadvantage. geog.ucsb.edu Edit - The bars refer to the number of states not the population, so its unclear which side has a population advantage but it was clear that the Union had an advantage. 2nd Edit - Updated info geog.ucsb.edu geog.ucsb.edu It looks like the red is bigger, esp. when you consider that the white states on the map also turned out to be red. If there really was a 2nd civil war the red states would also have the advantage of being contiguous. Tim