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To: TobagoJack who wrote (55643)11/6/2004 2:03:20 AM
From: energyplay  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 74559
 
Thunking' The E&P oil and gas stocks have about one more leg up in the next year, and are likley to be in a multi-year bull market, but they have stretched valuatuions for some current holders. These holders will be replaced with new holders who are happy to pay 10-12 times earnings....

Right now, value seems to be rippling outward from the commodity producers to other parts of the value chain, like transportation.

I have two rail companies, Norfolk Southern NYSE:NSC and Canadian Pacific NYSE:CP.

Both have nice charts, even a dividend.

As more commodities are sold, they move by rail. Wheat, soybeans, timber, paper, coal, gypsum, iron ore, more coal, petroleum products, perlite, cold rolled steel, more coal, cold rolled steel with mustard on the side, faith based initiatives, wood pulp, scrap iron and yes more coal.

For US Dollar zone players, the CP dividend comes from Canadian dollars....



To: TobagoJack who wrote (55643)11/6/2004 2:05:21 AM
From: energyplay  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559
 
Sometimes it is useful to gather more data, look around, go to conferences, ask people, etc. Sometimes good investments are obvious: then you don't have to thunk so much.



To: TobagoJack who wrote (55643)11/7/2004 7:32:34 AM
From: Haim R. Branisteanu  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559
 
Jay about a year ago you were a great fan of NEM. Interestingly even that the price of gold went up in USD NEM is about the same after visiting $35 range - any explanation - to much forward hedging ?



To: TobagoJack who wrote (55643)11/7/2004 5:56:01 PM
From: FiveFour  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 74559
 
There has been a 'thunk' weekend all around the globe, lots of pondering has occured even where one may least expect it.

On my weekend pondering list were that Oct day in 87 and that August month of in 98, and the brutal abruptness with which they appeared.

The question we must ask ourselves and answer is what was the catalyst: what was it that brought Chaos, Crisis, and Volatility to the markets (and our lives) when we least expected it?