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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Solon who wrote (18565)11/10/2004 12:12:57 PM
From: Greg or e  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 28931
 
"As far as I know, evolution is not a sentient process of mind and therefore it cannot hold values--certainly not in the sense of our limited understanding."

You are just evading the real issue by engaging in semantics. We are of course talking about the logical conclusions that follow from holding this particular worldview.

The inability of moving from what IS to what OUGHT to be, in a closed system where there are no transcendent values is what I am pointing out.

Reason alone, from an evolutionary standpoint, would dictate dog eat dog, the strong eliminate the weak. It's only when you sneak the emotional baggage of Theism into the picture that you come close to a system that is intuitively "right". Then you and other Atheists proclaim with a loud Ah HA! we can have the same ethics as Theism, without an appeal to God. I'm saying you are cheating and that in essence what you are doing is starting with conclusions about ethical oughtness and then trying to work back from those to justify them in an Atheistic framework.

""Darwin's Soul""

"The author could very well have meant the meaning in Webster's in common usage,"

Ya right. More semantics...

<<<You want to keep the ethical guidelines you happen to like at the moment but then claim no such transcendent ethics exist the very moment that they begin to encroach on your own lifestyle>>>

"Babble."

<<<Sleeping with unmarried Women etc etc.>>>

"LOL! Time for another flood! The way they clutch and pant is just so sickening. So Unnatural!"

You demonstrate my point very nicely. Ignore, evade the question, deny any standards exist.

Between being sick and work I am crazy busy right now so time on the net is suffering. I'll respond as soon as I can to the other points/posts.