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To: IQBAL LATIF who wrote (47288)	11/7/2004 1:05:08 PM
From: Thomas A Watson	Respond to of 50167

electoral-vote.com There is a good version of "the county map" scrolling down here. There is also an interesting graphing of a few demographic voter identifications. education level directly is not addressed directly. Blacks went 9 to 1 for kerry. Looks like all that affirmative action has made them the folks with the "higher education Level." And by the way, is it true those french and germans who rant against the President had their stock markets go up 2 to 3% after it became clear the President WON. Does that speak to their education???

To: IQBAL LATIF who wrote (47288)	11/7/2004 5:59:39 PM
From: Raymond Duray	Respond to of 50167

Re: Educate people without religion and you make them but clever devils. Author: Duke of Wellington "Religion is the opiate of the masses." -- Karl Marx * Are you happy about this? news24.com Marines turn to God 06/11/2004 16:25 - (SA) Near Fallujah - With US forces massing outside Fallujah, 35 marines swayed to Christian rock music and asked Jesus Christ to protect them in what could be the biggest battle since American troops invaded Iraq last year. Men with buzzcuts and clad in their camouflage waved their hands in the air, M-16 assault rifles beside them, and chanted heavy metal-flavoured lyrics in praise of Christ late on Friday in a yellow-brick chapel. They counted among thousands of troops surrounding the city of Fallujah, seeking solace as they awaited Iraqi Prime Minister Iyad Allawi's decision on whether or not to invade Fallujah. "You are the sovereign. You're name is holy. You are the pure spotless lamb," a female voice cried out on the loudspeakers as the marines clapped their hands and closed their eyes, reflecting on what lay ahead for them. The US military, with many soldiers coming from the conservative American south and midwest, has deep Christian roots. Comforting In times that fighting looms, many soldiers draw on their evangelical or born-again heritage to help them face the battle. "It's always comforting. Church attendance is always up before the big push," said first sergeant Miles Thatford. "Sometimes, all you've got is God." Between the service's electric guitar religious tunes, marines stepped up on the chapel's small stage and recited a verse of scripture, meant to fortify them for war. One spoke of their Old Testament hero, a shepherd who would become Israel's king, battling the Philistines 3 000 years ago. "Thus David prevailed over the Philistines," the marine said, reading from scripture, and the marines shouted back "Hoorah, King David," using their signature grunt of approval. The marines drew parallels from the verse with their present situation, where they perceive themselves as warriors fighting barbaric men opposed to all that is good in the world. "Victory belongs to the Lord," another young marine read. Their chaplain, named Horne, told the worshippers they were stationed outside Fallujah to bring the Iraqis "freedom from oppression, rape, torture and murder ... We ask you God to bless us in that effort." Holy oil The marines then lined up and their chaplain blessed them with holy oil to protect them. "God's people would be anointed with oil," the chaplain said, as he lightly dabbed oil on the marines' foreheads. The crowd then followed him outside their small auditorium for a baptism of about a half-dozen marines who had just found Christ. The young men lined up and at least three of them stripped down to their shorts. The three laid down in a rubber dinghy filled with water and the chaplain's assistant, navy corpsman Richard Vaughn, plunged their heads beneath the surface. Smiling, Vaughn baptised them "in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit." Dripping wet, corporal Keith Arguelles beamed after his baptism. "I just wanted to make sure I did this before I headed into the fight," he said on the military base not far from the city of Fallujah. * Iqbal, You cannot tell me honestly that these Christian sadists are any improvement whatsoever over Saddam Hussein. At least he fed the people and provided for their welfare. The Americans have starved the people, bombed them, denied them clean water, sewerage and medicine for a dozen years. There is nothing holy about what America is doing in Fallujah. It is an immoral, illegal slaughter.

To: IQBAL LATIF who wrote (47288)	11/9/2004 11:40:39 AM
From: TimF	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 50167

Mr Kerry drew more support from voters with higher education Level. Kerry got more post grad support, and more votes from people with no High School diploma. Bush got most of the votes in the middle. Tim