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To: carranza2 who wrote (151262)	11/7/2004 8:48:15 PM
From: neolib	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

You appear to be arguing that Iran's nuclear ambitions are based on static reasoning. Don't you think they have factored in the events of the last 4 years as well? I contrast your reasoning here with many peoples opinion of Qadhafi in Lybia, that he changed following the current Iraq invasion. However, Qadhafi actually started changing significantly after the fallout from the PanAm bombing in the early 1990's. I primarily remember sometime in the mid 1990's (?) he started more initiatives with black Africa, and seemed to abandon terror as a means to an end. Try this for a brief overview: campusprogram.com However, I suspect that 9/11 and the Iraq war have continued to push him along the road of moderation. For Iran, it appears to be doing the opposite.

To: carranza2 who wrote (151262)	11/8/2004 12:03:25 PM
From: Michael Watkins	Respond to of 281500

your contention that it is designed to deter against W's current disregard for international law is simply not borne out by the facts, though it does fit nicely with a certain simplistic "Bush a chimp, him bad" viewpoint. That's not my contention, never has been. I've never suggested that Iran just started down this road - I know the history. Ish would like to make this a simplistic discussion and perhaps you would too, but I won't go there. All along I've suggested that, in the face of events of the past 4 years, the Iranian's would be fools not to accelerate any weapons program that offers strategic deterrent value. Absent a strong set of allies, a threatened nation will do what it needs to do to defend itself. We should neither be dismayed by this logical turn of events nor surprised, particularly as its us doing the threatening.