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To: SiouxPal who wrote (879)	11/7/2004 8:00:25 PM
From: Ron	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 361346

Hi Sioux, glad to see you started up this moderated thread. Hopefully there will be some justice and the Connecticut Cowboy will have to get his hands good and dirty trying to clean up his own mess this term. Interesting they waited until after the election to start the Fallujah offensive. They could have done it last spring, and probably knocked out Zarqawi back then. But then, this is the gang that can't shoot straight (the politicians I mean). -------------- In the meantime: Saudi Group Backs Insurgents * Prominent scholars and preachers urge Iraqis to support the militants fighting U.S.-led forces. From Associated Press BEIRUT — As American troops prepared Saturday for a major assault on the insurgent hotbed of Fallouja, a group of prominent Saudi religious scholars urged Iraqis to support militants fighting U.S.-led forces. The 26 Saudi scholars and preachers said in an open letter to the Iraqi people that their appeal was prompted by "the extraordinary situation through which the Iraqis are passing which calls for unity and exchange of view. The letter was posted on the Internet. "At no time in history has a whole people been violated … by propaganda that's been proved false," Awad Qarni, one of the scholars, told Al Arabiya television. "The U.S. forces are still destroying towns on the heads of their people and killing women and children. What's going on in Iraq is a result of the big crime of America's occupation of Iraq." In their letter, the scholars stressed that armed attacks by Iraqi groups on U.S. troops and their allies in Iraq represent "legitimate" resistance. The scholars directed their appeal to Iraqis only and stayed away from issuing a general, Muslim-wide call for holy war. They also identified the military as the target. Saudi officials did not comment on the statement. Saudi Arabia has sealed off its long border with Iraq and bars people from crossing into that country. Its most senior clerics issued a statement last year saying the call for jihad — or holy war — should only come from the ruler and should not be based on edicts issued by individual clerics. In their letter Saturday, the 26 clerics issued a fatwa, or religious edict, prohibiting Iraqis from offering any support for military operations carried out by U.S. forces against insurgent strongholds. "Fighting the occupiers is a duty for all those who are able," the letter said. "It is a jihad to push back the assailants. Resistance is a legitimate right. A Muslim must not inflict harm on any resistance man or inform on them. Instead, they should be supported and protected." Besides Qarni, those signing the letter included Safar Hawali, Nasser Omar, Salman Awdah and Sharif Hatem Aouni. Hawali, who was jailed in the 1990s for five years without trial because he criticized U.S. involvement in the 1991 Persian Gulf War against Iraq, once was close to Saudi-born Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden. He opposed the presence of U.S. troops in the kingdom. latimes.com

To: SiouxPal who wrote (879)	11/7/2004 10:59:03 PM
From: abuelita	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 361346

Who knows what, in the next four years, The man who feeds his nation's fears Will do to nourish hate abroad And carry out the will of God? Not George Bush, scary as he seems, But Karl Rove, architect of dreams, And warped boy genius of the right Whose tricks secured election night. Once, long ago, he babysat The drunk, obnoxious frat-house brat Who'd mastered all the deadly sins. The rest is history: White House wins, A leader who's so born-again You'd think he hatched from God's own brain, And four more years to stretch the truth Because Rove saved a misspent youth. To members of the George Bush clan Who like to talk straight man to man, Karl Rove's the "blossom in the turd," The wide-eyed, gung-ho backroom nerd Who raked up muck and sifted crap To make a rose-red victory map. Why does he do it? Heaven knows, But where shit happens, Karl Rove grows. -john allemang