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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Ann Corrigan who wrote (83)	11/8/2004 5:32:26 AM
From: Bearcatbob	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 224720

Sorry Anne - markets rule. Low cost retailers are here with or without Walmart.

To: Ann Corrigan who wrote (83)	11/8/2004 3:02:56 PM
From: Richnorth	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224720

Sounds like you are against Chinese goods. Too bad! While the quality of them may not be to your liking everytime, the inexpensive goods do help poorer folks stretch their dollars a bit, and that's a good thing! A time was when Japanese goods were a joke. That was in the 1950s and early 1960s. But since then, the quality of Japanese goods have improved so much that "Made-in-Japan" is now synonymous with quality! Just take a look at the Japanese cars, electronic goods --- TVs and digicams & etc! (By the way, even the Japanese are outsourcing the manufacture of digicams to China and Thailand.) Verily, market forces rule! I believe that, overtime, Chinese goods will improve in quality to the point where even Americans will be forced to raised standards.

To: Ann Corrigan who wrote (83)	11/8/2004 3:02:57 PM
From: Richnorth	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224720

Sounds like you are against Chinese goods. Too bad! While the quality of them may not be to your liking everytime, the inexpensive goods do help poorer folks stretch their dollars a bit, and that's a good thing! A time was when Japanese goods were a joke. That was in the 1950s and early 1960s. But since then, the quality of Japanese goods have improved so much that "Made-in-Japan" is now synonymous with quality! Just take a look at the Japanese cars, electronic goods --- TVs and digicams & etc! (By the way, even the Japanese are outsourcing the manufacture of digicams to China and Thailand.) Verily, market forces rule! I believe that, overtime, Chinese goods will improve in quality to the point where even Americans will be forced to raised standards.

To: Ann Corrigan who wrote (83)	11/8/2004 5:46:18 PM
From: cirrus	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224720

Vermont has managed to allow Wal-Mart in without the ugly box issues faced everywhere else. The... liberal, pro-environment culture let Wal-Mart in only if the company agreed to locate within existing cities and towns - no breaking ground for new urban sprawl. In Rutland, for example Wal-Mart anchors an inner-city shopping center that has revitalized the downtown. However, there is a battle brewing: During the 1990s Wal-Mart located three of its four Vermont stores in existing buildings and kept them relatively modest in size. Now, however, the world's largest company is planning to saturate the state -- which has only 600,000 residents -- with seven new mammoth mega-stores, each with a minimum of 150,000 square feet. Wal-Mart's plans are sure to attract an influx of other big-box retailers. The likely result: degradation of the Green Mountain State's unique sense of place, economic disinvestment in historic downtowns, loss of locally-owned businesses, and an erosion of the sense of community that seems an inevitable by-product of big-box sprawl. With deep regret, the national trust takes the rare step of re-listing Vermont as one of America's 11 Most Endangered Historic Places. ptvermont.org