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To: sylvester80 who wrote (66689)	11/9/2004 2:31:11 PM
From: jlallen	Respond to of 89467

Nope....I've criticized the President myself....but pulling together in time of war, especially this week, is something which would appear to me to be self evident to all citizens of good will...... JLA

To: sylvester80 who wrote (66689)	11/10/2004 5:28:07 PM
From: one_less	Respond to of 89467

Ok, I read your post on Roosevelt... No where in that did I see unqualified bashing to be justified. I did see... "Therefore it is absolutely necessary that there should be full liberty to tell the truth ..." Tsk, sly... you come up wanting in the truth department... "...about his acts, and this means that it is exactly necessary to blame him when he does wrong as to praise him when he does right." Ok. It appears Roosevelt was an advocate of placing responsibility where it belongs. When I look at all of the things you have attributed solely to Bush I can't help but say hmmmmmmm... "...as to praise him when he does right." Ah, maybe this is why your load of balone rings hollow... I missed all your adoring praises somehow. (no offense intended Geode00) and then there is this part that you seemed to overlook ... "Nothing but the truth should be spoken about him or any one else." "The President is merely the most important among a large number of public servants. He should be supported or opposed exactly to the degree which is warranted by his good conduct or bad conduct, his efficiency or inefficiency in rendering loyal, able, and disinterested service to the Nation as a whole. Therefore it is absolutely necessary that there should be full liberty to tell the truth about his acts, and this means that it is exactly necessary to blame him when he does wrong as to praise him when he does right. Any other attitude in an American citizen is both base and servile. To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. Nothing but the truth should be spoken about him or any one else. But it is even more important to tell the truth, pleasant or unpleasant, about him than about any one else." "Roosevelt in the Kansas City Star", 149 May 7, 1918

To: sylvester80 who wrote (66689)	11/10/2004 5:34:01 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

Roosevelt on Muckrakers... "Men with the muckrake are often indispensable to the well-being of society, but only if they know when to stop raking the muck." "An epidemic in indiscriminate assault upon character does not good, but very great harm." "There should be relentless exposure of and attack upon every evil practice, whether in politics, in business, or in social life. I hail as a benefactor every writer or speaker, every man who, on the platform, or in book, magazine or newspaper, with merciless severity makes such attack, provided always that he in his turn remembers that the attack is of use only if it is absolutely truthful." Washington, DC, April 14, 1906 only if it is absolutely truthful." only if it is absolutely truthful." only if it is absolutely truthful." only if it is absolutely truthful." Did you notice that last part? It qualifies the rest. Absolutely truthfulness is compromised by petty agendas. You are welcome.