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Politics : Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Kerry -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Brumar89 who wrote (56950)	11/9/2004 11:58:05 PM
From: Karen Lawrence	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 81568

Bush supporters seek rapture: wandascountryhome.com

To: Brumar89 who wrote (56950)	11/10/2004 12:06:37 AM
From: Karen Lawrence	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 81568

Bush seeks Armageddon: "The scriptured text that informs Bush understanding of and enactment of the End Of Days (Revelations 19) depicts Christ returning as the Heavenly Avenger. Revelations is the only New Testament book that justifies violence of any kind, and this it takes to the limit "It is not inconceivable that Bush is literally and determinedly drawn consciously and unconsciously, toward the enactment of such a scenario, as he believes, for God's sake. Indeed the stark relentlessness of his policy in the Middle East suggests as much" "BUSH'S ARMAGEDDON OBSESSION, REVISITED" counterpunch.org by Michael Ortiz Hill. Author of Dreaming the End of the World I will quote a lot from it but suggest you get the original from the above website. To quote: " The man is delusional and the shape of his delusion is specifically apocalyptic in belief and intent. That Bush would attack so many vital systems on so many fronts from foreign policy to the environment may seem confusing from the point of view of Realpolitik but becomes transparent in terms of the apocalyptic worldview to which he subscribes. All systems are supposed to go down so the Messiah can come and Bush, seemingly, has taken on the role of the one who brings this to pass." "The Reverend Billy Graham taught Bush to live in anticipation of the Second Coming but it was his friendship with Dr Tony Evans that shaped Bush's political understanding of how to deport himself in an apocalyptic era. Dr Evans, the Pastor of a large Dallas Church and a founder of the Promise Keepers movement taught Bush about "how the world should be seen from a divine viewpoint" "S.R. Shearer of Antipas Ministries writes, "Most leaders of the Promise Keepers embrace a doctrine of 'end times (eschatology) known as 'dominionism. Dominionism pictures the seizure of earthy (temporal) power by the people of God as the only means through which the world can be rescued… "It is the eschatology that Bush has imbibed; an eschatology through which he has gradually (and easily) come to see himself as an agent of God who has been called by him to 'restore the earth to God's control' a 'chosen vessel' so to speak, to bring Restoration of All Things. Shearer calls this delusion, "Messianic leadership" - that is to say usurping the role usually ascribed to the Messiah. "In the book Bush at War, Bob Woodward writes, "Most presidents have high hopes. Some have grandiose visions of what they will achieve, and he was firmly in that camp. "To answer these attacks and rid the world of evil" says Bush. And again he said: "We will export death and violence to the four corners of the earth in defense of this great nation" "Woodward comments, "The president was casting his mission and that of the country in the grand vision of Gods Master Plan. All the objections from the highest Republican and International and Allied authorities, including the Pentagon, to his war on Iraq "is in the least relevant to Bush." His advisors are the extremist neocons that he has surrounded himself with and agree with him and "his mandate is from God" "The scriptured text that informs Bush understanding of and enactment of the End Of Days (Revelations 19) depicts Christ returning as the Heavenly Avenger. Revelations is the only New Testament book that justifies violence of any kind, and this it takes to the limit "…Out of his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. And I saw an angel standing in the sun who cried in a low voice to all the birds flying in mid-air - come gather together for the great supper of God, so you may eat the flesh of kings, generals and mighty men, of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all people, free and slave, small and great" "Such is "the glory of the coming of the Lord. Truth, carnage, and the ecstasy of vultures. In a ruined world the Messiah slays the antichrist and creates "a new heaven and a new earth" The dead are judged, the Christians saved and the rest of us damned to eternal torment. The new Jerusalem is established and the Lord rules it with an iron sceptre" "It is not inconceivable that Bush is literally and determinedly drawn consciously and unconsciously, toward the enactment of such a scenario, as he believes, for God's sake. Indeed the stark relentlessness of his policy in the Middle East suggests as much" The well-known American author Gore Vidal, commenting on previous US Administrations made similar comments about Bush in his article "The Erosion of the American Dream" 19/3/03 wwwcounterpunch.org "No, he certainly is worse(than previous Administrations). We've never had a kind of reckless one who may believe - and there's a whole history now that he's inspired by love of Our Lord -that he is an apocalyptic Christian who'll be going to Heaven while the rest of us go to blazes. "..we have been at war steadily since 1950. I did a pamphlet "A Perpetual War For Perpetual Peace"...we have the Enemy of the Month. One month its Noreiega-king of drugs. Another one, its Gaddafi - we bombed and killed his daughter. We've moved from one enemy to another and the press and media has never been more disgusting….The censorship here is so tight in all of the newspapers and particularly in network television. So nobodies getting the facts…"

To: Brumar89 who wrote (56950)	11/10/2004 12:10:11 AM
From: Karen Lawrence	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 81568

Christian leaders express dismay: 'Bush is commander in chief, not theologian in chief' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted: November 24, 2003 11:26 a.m. Eastern Many Evangelical Christians in the U.S. say they are outraged over President George Bush's statement that Christians and Muslims worship the same God. The statement was made Thursday, during the joint press conference in England with Prime Minister Tony Blair. A reporter noted Bush has frequently expressed the view that freedom is a gift from "the Almighty," but questioned whether Bush believes "Muslims worship the same Almighty" as the president and other Christians do. "I do say that freedom is the Almighty's gift to every person. I also condition it by saying freedom is not America's gift to the world," Bush replied. "It's much greater than that, of course. And I believe we worship the same god," reported the London Telegraph. Bush's equivalence of the Judeo-Christian and Muslim gods brought reactions of shock and dismay from Christians in the U.S. Richard Land, president of the Southern Baptist Convention, the nation's largest Protestant denomination, was quoted in the Baptist Press as saying the president "is simply mistaken." According to a Washington Post account, Land said in an interview: "We should always remember that he is commander in chief, not theologian in chief. The Bible is clear on this: The one and true god is Jehovah, and his only begotten son is Jesus Christ."

To: Brumar89 who wrote (56950)	11/10/2004 10:17:50 PM
From: Brumar89	Respond to of 81568

For those BDS sufferers who don't go in for therapy, there is another way out. Though it's not a quick fix, immigration (to Canada, for instance) offers an honorable way to actualize one's deeply held beliefs: cic.gc.ca Canada has: socialized health care, hardly any military (they bought a submarine a few years back and have had it on patrol with no torpedoes or weapons of any kind - how much more pacifist can you get) gun control the bible's anti-gay commandments are now legally considered hate speech higher taxes than the US. All in all, a liberal paradise.