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Politics : WAR on Terror. Will it engulf the Entire Middle East? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Haim R. Branisteanu who wrote (7807)11/10/2004 7:22:43 AM
From: lorne  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 32591
 
Haim R. Branisteanu. I have always wondered how even with a change in palestinians leadership can a couple of generations of young people be un-brainwashed of their religious hate teachings. I mean these people really believe what they have been taught. Can the new leadership now just say ,....gees sorry guys but all that stuff we taught you ...well it was wrong so what's say we just start over and all those martyrs...well there not really martyrs we just said that to get you to become human bombs.

IMO Big problem.



To: Haim R. Branisteanu who wrote (7807)11/10/2004 12:11:10 PM
From: Peter Dierks  Respond to of 32591
 
Fascinating work. Thank you Haim.

Intermingled in there were somepolling numbers that I found quite fascinating.

Arafat's illness has not softened the animosity toward him in the Jewish street, with 79 percent characterizing him as a terrorist and only 5 percent as a statesman. Fifteen percent placed him in the middle. A segmentation of this characterization by party voting shows that while a majority of voters for all the parties indeed puts the Palestinian leader at the terrorist pole, this majority clearly differs from party to party. Thus, 93 percent of National Union voters, 92 percent of National Religious Party voters, 88 percent of Likud voters, 82 percent of Shinui voters, 76 percent of Shas voters and 50 percent of Meretz and Labor voters define him as a terrorist; as for defining him as a statesman, 11 percent of Labor voters, 10.5 percent of Shinui voters, 10 percent of Meretz voters, 5 percent of Shas voters, 3 percent of Likud and NRP voters and none of the National Union voters define him as a statesman.

On the question of whether, the Oslo process having failed because of Arafat, it is now possible to achieve peace with a different Palestinian leadership or, conversely, impossible to reach peace with the Palestinians no matter who stands at their helm, the Jewish public is divided, with a slight advantage for those who believe peace can be reached with a different leadership (49 percent) over those who think peace with the Palestinians is impossible and it makes no difference who leads them (43 percent). Still, the majority - 58 percent - believe that the chances of reaching a comprehensive peace agreement with the Palestinians today, after Arafat's removal from political life, are low or nonexistent (32 percent view these chances as quite or very high). The disparities here between voters for the different parties are large, with a majority of the optimists in the left-wing parties (80 percent of Meretz voters and 63 percent of Labor voters) and a majority of the pessimists in the parties on the right, even after Arafat's leaving the scene (83 percent of NRP voters, 81 percent of Shas voters, 79 percent of National Union voters and 64 percent of Likud voters).

There is much more that is interesting. But this shows the root of the problem. Realists are out of place in liberal parties.