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To: Neocon who wrote (151354)	11/10/2004 8:12:54 AM
From: redfish	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

It is not a question of preserving sovereignty. As a sovereign nation, we have the right to repeatedly nuke Baghdad until every form of life in the city is destroyed. The question is whether it is in our best interests to do so. Pursuing unjust wars, or waging war in an unjust matter, will set all of the world's free nations against us. If your primary interest is protecting Israel, that is not a concern, given that we are Israel's only friend. Setting the world against the United States would be beneficial to Israel, as then it would be us and them against the world, whereas formerly it was Israel alone against the world. However, as an American, I believe that squandering the world's goodwill towards our nation is the equivalent of squandering our nation's assets and putting our citizens in needless jeopardy.

To: Neocon who wrote (151354)	11/11/2004 4:43:10 PM
From: Michael Watkins	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

We are not putting ourselves in the hands of a corrupt international body dominated by dictatorial kleptocracies. What about a corrupt national body? As for whether the Bush/Cheney regime is a kleptocracy, that remains to be proved. The only reason for arguing whether invading Iraq was legitimate is to explore and understand whether the United States has turned from being a source or inspiration of legitimacy to being a rogue state itself. Had Iraq been completely uninteresting to the US for strategic (physical location) and strategic (oil) reasons, the discussion would solely focus on whether or not democracy can be force fed to a region. But its not a single faceted argument, not by a long shot. I contend that the US has turned a corner. If I were OPEC, I'd turn off the taps just to test the theory.