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To: michael97123 who wrote (151389)	11/10/2004 1:26:06 PM
From: GST	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Fallujah is being reduced to rubble. What does it mean to the US to reduce the city to rubble? Does it mean we have "pacified" Fallujah? Or does it mean we have destroyed what was left of peoples' homes and the infrastructure of the city? If the city lies in ruins and a few hundred young men are dead along with many civilians, did we "win"? Where will we bomb next? What lucky city will we liberate next with daily bombardment? What city would like to be reduced to rubble? Ask yourself this question: Where do we stand on the issue of winning the hearts and minds of the Iraqi people? Where will we stand after the destruction of Fallujah? Tell me about our hearts and minds strategy.

To: michael97123 who wrote (151389)	11/10/2004 1:33:31 PM
From: cnyndwllr	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Mike, re: But, just but what if we are right and the terrorists end up on the run and falujah returns to some degree of peace with reconstruction underway, what then? will you admit you were wrong? Hope springs eternal but what view of human nature, what analysis of the past history of Fallujah, what view of the history of insurgencies and what logical arguments can you make to support such grandiose hopes? In the face of ugly realities and men, women and children dying hard, painful deaths, "it could happen" is a poor excuse for thoughtful analysis. Ed