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To: Wayners who wrote (659332)	11/10/2004 2:55:08 PM
From: J_F_Shepard	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

Yes, it is a Catholic website which is why I thought you would accept it as "gospel" (pardon the pun). Catholics do not refer to themselves as Born Again...... And they can go to confession everyday if they want to....

To: Wayners who wrote (659332)	11/10/2004 5:30:05 PM
From: Johannes Pilch	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

The site fallaciously misrepresents the meaning of "born again" to Protestants and then ridicules the fallacy. It ought at least be honest and try to represent its opponents as well as possible, without making fun of them. Every single Protestant believer I know, every single one of them, will tell you that it is possible to respond to an alter call, get baptized and still not be born again. After all, a guy may simply go through the physical motions of salvation, even getting baptized, simply to impress a girl. It has happened plenty of times. Protestants stress that no one can enter heaven until a spiritual birth takes place. The first birth is physical, the second birth (rebirth) takes place from heaven. The catholic site is just dishonest, ignorant or both.