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To: TimF who wrote (1036)	11/10/2004 7:39:56 PM
From: Road Walker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1968

re: Communists killed more people then the Nazis did, but to be fair they had more opportunity as they ruled more people for more years. How about the Christians, are they in the race?

To: TimF who wrote (1036)	11/10/2004 7:52:54 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1968

Communism doesn't evoke too much fear in me because it has been mostly defeated, but nazism has been even more thoroughly defeated and yet any support for Nazis gets a negative reaction, and rightfully so. Communists killed more people then the Nazis did, but to be fair they had more opportunity as they ruled more people for more years. Communism as practiced by the Russians was not communism......it was an [oligarchial] authoritarian gov't that went under the guise of communism. That gov't scared me......not the basic tenets of communism. Communism was intended to promote the welfare of the average man; fascism was an elitist doctrine that harbored only ill for the downtrodden. Hitler made the whole thing more insidious by killing off 6 million Jews, gypsies and gays. That's why its feared more than communism. Secondly, if there is support for communism on the far left of the Dems, and frankly, I don't know if that's true, that support is not for the kind of gov't that the USSR had but rather the communism as first promoted by Marx. Which is like supporting Nazism without the death camps and aggressive wars. No, it isn't....no, it isn't....no, it isn't. We have this argument at least once a year. Communism as practiced by the Russians was no where near what Marx intended. They implemented parts of his thesis......or appeared to.....but the rest was simply a somewhat candy coated dictatorship. It still should be condemned. Also you still get support for more than abstract Marxism, but for communist regimes like Castro's. Fortunately such support is dwindling even among the left, but when I was a child there was support for communist regimes in places like North Vietnam and China. I can't speak to your childhood but as a kid, I do not ever remember people supporting the communists in Cuba, China or Vietnam. ted