To: zonder who wrote (15476 ) 11/11/2004 10:59:05 AM From: mishedlo Respond to of 116555 ECB says euro zone economy still growing in H2 but pace of growth uncertain Thursday, November 11, 2004 11:46:07 AMafxpress.com FRANKFURT (AFX) - The European Central Bank said the euro zone economy is continuing to grow in the second half of the year but the pace of the economic expansion is uncertain "Survey data... point to ongoing growth in the second half of the year, although mixed indications give rise to some uncertainty as regards its pace," the ECB said in its November monthly bulletinEU statistics office Eurostat reports euro zone third quarter GDP tomorrow and growth is expected to slow from the 0.5 pct rate recorded in the second quarter and the 0.7 pct first quarter rate, particularly after this morning's news of a marked slowdown in German growth "At the sectoral level, available information points to ongoing expansion in the third quarter, although growth in the industrial sector may have moderated compared with the second quarter," the ECB said But surveys suggest that industrial output is continuing to grow at the start of the fourth quarter, with only limited impact from the recent oil price rise, it added "Survey data indicate that industrial confidence has not been affected significantly by the recent increase in oil prices, suggesting ongoing growth in industrial production," it said But indications for the services sector are more mixed , with the purchasing managers' index for services suggesting that growth has moderated in recent months, it said Meanwhile, private consumption is unlikely to have strengthened in the third quarter, the ECB said Looking ahead, the ECB said there are some risks to the growth outlook but the basic determinants for continuing growth next year remain favourable But it said the world economic cycle may now be past its peak"There are more indications that the current cycle, while likely to remain robust, has passed its peak," it said. "Both the OECD composite leading indicator and the purchasing managers' index signal a continuation of expansion, but also suggest a slowdown in growth rates from their very high levels observed in late 2003 and early 2004." And it said the high level of oil prices "could entail risks" for euro zone growth and inflation But the euro's appreciation has had some dampening effect on oil prices in euro terms, and dollar oil prices are in any case below previous peak levels in real terms "All in all, the current rise should have a more limited impact on the euro area economy than the large oil price shocks of the past," it said But it added: "Persistently high levels of oil prices or even further increases would be a reason for concern." The ECB said economic models suggest that a sustained 50 pct rise in oil prices would depress euro zone growth by 0.1-0.8 percentage points in the first year. But in the second year after such a price rise, the growth impact is estimated to range between a decline of 0.3 points and an increase of 0.2 points, while in the third year it is estimated to range between a decline of 0.1 points and an increase of 0.4 points However, the central bank said the results of such models need to be treated with cautionThe positive impact on growth suggested by some models in the second and third year may reflect an assumption that oil-exporting countries will increase their consumption of euro zone goods when oil prices rise, it said. The models point to a greater negative impact on inflation, which is expected to increase by 0.3-0.6 percentage points in the first year, 0.1-0.4 points in the second year. The inflation impact in the third year is estimated at between zero and 0.1 points The direct inflation impact of the oil price rise cannot be avoided, but the ECB said it must be prepared to raise interest rates if wages are raised in response to higher energy costs, leading to more general inflation pressures "If there are indications that general inflationary pressures are increasing, central banks need to be ready to take action," it said It said it therefore has to closely monitor inflation expectations and wage negotiationsAnd governments must not seek to compensate for the oil price impact on growth by loosening fiscal policy, the ECB said "Fiscal policies can support the conduct of monetary policy geared to price stability by not trying to accommodate negative economic effects associated with oil price shocks," it said In countries which already have high deficits, an accommodative budgetary policy stance could have a destabilising effect and could prolong inflation pressures, it said =============================================================== What a hodgepodge of ideas and some seem convoluted if not contradictory. Let me summ it up: "We really do not know WTF is happening other than growth is slowing. We are over the hill in terms of peak, but it is too foggy to see how far the valley is below. As such we prefer to remain optimists and pretend that the we are overlooking a valley rather than a steep gorge. Even though we can not see where we are going, we will continue on the same path until it is obvious that we have fallen into a deflationary gorge. At that point we may or may not cut interest rates. We believe that rising oil prices are inflationary even though our models(which we ourselves do not trust)do not show it. We have done so much bitching about the strength of the Euro lately that we do not need to bitch more about it today." There. Is that a short accurate version of the above or not? Mish