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To: Chas. who wrote (22317)	11/13/2004 1:08:12 PM
From: cnyndwllr	Respond to of 23153

Chuck, re: "the specific import of Eds message or post was that President Bushs leadership was suspect because of his religious convictions and belief in them..... No Chuck, that was not the import of my message. With respect to that aspect of my thinking, the danger is that faith based, devout and religiously oriented decision making does not emphasize pragmatic thinking. It requires only "inspiration" or, possibly, "an understanding of the will of God." Once decided upon the decision maker will be guided by his faith and, since "God's ways are not clear to man," a few setbacks may not initiate any change in policy; remember the "faith" thing. In that sense, therefor, being wrong is bad enough but being wrong with a sense that you're serving the will of the lord may make you wrong to the end. Right now our men and women are dying in Iraq. It's just past veterans day and lots of history channel specials have addressed some of the many times in our past when we've sent our young men to die for silly, proud reasons that had nothing to do with valid, achievable goals or the best interests of our country. I am one of those who believe that when we send our young to kill and die, we ought to do so based on sound reasoning and we should be prepared to evaluate and reevaluate our goals and probable success on a constant basis. I think that we owe them that, at least. If we send them to war based on the view of a few MEN that God wants the world to be democratic, or that God wants those few men to do seemingly impossible things that don't seem to be panning out as our men die, then that's fine; let those men go and die or send their families to die. After all, if they're right they'll live to make more similar decisions and if they're wrong then they won't be around to screw things up again. Unfortunately, they don't go, they send our young instead and when our young get killed they talk about how noble our young are. Doesn't that make you a little sick? The fact is that the world is round not flat, wars fought based on tactics founded in belief as opposed to realities are doomed to be clusterfucks and the men in charge of our country are not clear thinkers. That's a formula for failure but they will likely not pay that penalty except in the judgement of historians. Ed