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To: i-node who wrote (211718)	11/14/2004 10:35:09 PM
From: TigerPaw	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1576376

But I do know that 5,000 Iraqis were dying monthly at the hands of Saddam's regime Their death was as much the fault of Bush 1 as Saddam. TP

To: i-node who wrote (211718)	11/15/2004 7:26:34 AM
From: Elroy	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1576376

My take is, leave them alone, unless we are 'truly' invited. Who is goint to invite us? Saddam? Chalabi invited us!

To: i-node who wrote (211718)	11/20/2004 10:35:48 PM
From: beach_bum	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1576376

"I think they are unhappy about having an occupying power in place, but I also believe the Iraqi people will laud George Bush as a hero 10 years from now." 10 years from now, we may still be controlling iraq in some form (puppet govt) and they may be paid to praise us. But 20-30 years from now, we will be very likely viewed as no different from any invading power in history of iraq - with hate for killing so many civilians. "he [Friedman] recognized that this kind of change is necessary to stop the Arab youth from growing up hating the United States." And we sure are doing a superb job of feeding their hate. "Who is goint to invite us? Saddam?" before the election - United Nations. After the election - whoever wins it fairly - Sistani, Sadr or whoever. Unfortunately, US might find a way to get Allawi in unfairly to suit our interest. "Realistically, oil and our lifestyle are part of why we need a more stable situation there. I don't have a problem with that. The United States is totally dependent on foreign oil and will be until we get large numbers of Hybrids on the road. We can't really afford to have a lunatic in control of the petroleum supply." The concept of "forces of free market will play out" is a disaster in this case. Why are we waiting for it to play out on its own. Isnt a loss of tens of thousands of lives (ours and theirs) important enough for the govt to proactively fund alternate source of energy since late 1970s. Of course, we cant afford an unfriendly leader in control in power in the oil countries (and that explains why we mess around with democratic govt of venezuala). I have said it all along - the war in Iraq is mostly about oil, and the economy and our lifestyle it controls. Freeing Iraqi from saddam to improve our security from terrorism is far-fetched and a "lie". "I know. You don't think that's a reason to go to war. I do. But the number of reasons are so many that we hardly need another." On the contrary, this is the most understandable reason, IMO, in going to war with iraq (not justifiable, since we haven't done anything to resolve the oil problem for 25 years). Bum.