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To: TobagoJack who wrote (55950)	11/15/2004 8:47:32 AM
From: elmatador	Respond to of 74559

"The agency seems in freefall in Washington, and that is a very, very bad omen in the middle of a war," said Rep. Jane Harman, D-Rancho Palos Verdes (Los Angeles County), the ranking Democrat on the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. ... "I can tell you right now, when you tell the president of the United States that weapons of mass destruction is a slam-dunk in Iraq and (then) you tell the whole world you're wrong, somebody needs to deal with the dynamic that led to us being so wrong. And if you have to hurt some feelings, so be it, " he said. CIA tumult irks some in Congress Others back moves by new director to transform agency Lisa Getter, Los Angeles Times Monday, November 15, 2004 Washington -- Members of Congress said Sunday that they are concerned about turmoil within the CIA, following last week's retirement of the agency's deputy director and reports of more resignations to come. "The agency seems in freefall in Washington, and that is a very, very bad omen in the middle of a war," said Rep. Jane Harman, D-Rancho Palos Verdes (Los Angeles County), the ranking Democrat on the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. Appearing on CBS' "Face the Nation," Harman said she thinks the reports of low morale at the agency are due to the four inexperienced House Intelligence Committee staff members who went to the CIA when Porter Goss, the committee's former chairman, became director of central intelligence in September. "Many of us worked with that staff in the House," she said, describing the four as "highly partisan. ... Frankly, on both sides of the aisle in the committee, we were happy to see them go." Harman said she thinks Goss "deserves a chance to make changes at the CIA. But to do them effectively, he has to do them with an experienced staff, and he doesn't have one." The director needs to get a management team in place that can improve the CIA without offending its staff or leading to "hemorrhages at the highest level of some talented people," she said. Deputy Director John E. McLaughlin announced his retirement Friday, saying it was a purely personal decision. Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, said Sunday on ABC's "This Week" that he thinks Goss' efforts to shake up the agency are the right thing to do. He described the CIA as a "dysfunctional agency, and in some ways a rogue agency." "This agency needs to be reformed," McCain said, adding that Goss is "on the right track. He is being savaged by these people that want the status quo. And the status quo is not satisfactory." Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., said on "Face the Nation" that changes are necessary at the agency, especially because the CIA supplied inaccurate intelligence before the war in Iraq. "I can tell you right now, when you tell the president of the United States that weapons of mass destruction is a slam-dunk in Iraq and (then) you tell the whole world you're wrong, somebody needs to deal with the dynamic that led to us being so wrong. And if you have to hurt some feelings, so be it, " he said.

To: TobagoJack who wrote (55950)	11/15/2004 11:44:48 AM
From: elmatador	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

The enemy there has a face, and it’s called Satan, and it lives in Fallujah.” The Marines [who] have been killed over the last five months have been killed by a faceless enemy. The enemy there has a face, and it’s called Satan, and it lives in Fallujah.” -- U.S. Marine Col. Gary Brandl before the attack on Fallujah, quoted by Dahr Jamail, on www.electroniciraq.net. Jamail asks, “Who says this isn’t a holy war?” “This is not the same movement that we saw in the 1980s. This is a religious resurgence, and also a retooling. This is a much more diverse group of people, united across a broad range of issues.” -- Jay Sekulow, chief counsel for the American Center for Law and Justice, a conservative public interest law firm in Washington, speaking about religious conservatives Jay, my brother! get your bible and crucifix.