To: TimF who wrote (4097 ) 11/16/2004 8:54:17 AM From: Mary Cluney Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 7936 He wasn't a "super intellectual", but he was a lot more intelligent than many give him credit for. Look up some of his old writings. Ronald Reagan was a terrific human being. He is an example of what we would all want from our fellow human beings - to live up to their potential as much as possible. I think GW is also a lot smarter then many give him credit for being he certainly isn't the idiot that some of his opponents paint him as being. From all indications, George W Bush has a reasonably adequate IQ. But, there are also indications that he never applied himself. There is no inidcations that he studied very much all the way through graduate school. He didn't apply himself while in the military. The question is, when did he ever develop the necessary skill set necessary to do the work of a President of the United States. Did he ever read all the great works of literature? Did he study economics? How much science does he know? Aside from his encounter with DWI charges and conviction, how much of the body of law does he know? We know he was not curious about International current events. He never traveled to Europe on his own as a private citizen. He didn't know the name of the President of Pakistan while he was running for President of the United States. Given that we have a population of nearly 300 million, we have nearly 6 million people with IQ's of 140 or greater. Some of these people really applied themselves in school developing the necessary skill sets to manage complex tasks. I would say that a person with less than 140 IQ would have a very difficult time managing Microsoft, Intel, Cisco, Citi Group, Walmart, McDonalds, Coca Cola. Sure there are a lot of terrific people with IQ's of less than 140. So what? My point is that we should set a higher bar for people to become President of the United States. Why not? However, there is a snowball effect and there are unintended consequences. There are malevolent types (and make no mistakes about it, they are malevolent - as there are malevolent types anywhere in the world) trying to steer this snowball. Could you expand on what you mean by that? Take for example what is going on at the CIA. What was needed was some tweaking. Instead, the new Director goes in their with a bunch of very political and inexperienced staffers and are now politicsizing the CIA. Anybody who did not agree with the policies of the current administration are on notice. They feel they have a mandate to do anything they want. Geaorge W Bush is not a real detail person. He is not really hands on. There are really terribly bad people who would like to take over the CIA. Just as there were these real nasty types in Germany with the SS or the KGB guys in the Kremlin. I am not saying that this group under this new Director falls in that category, but could it be possible for some terrible people to take over and remake the CIA. Up until now, our Central Intelligence people are descendent of Alan Dulles and the Bristish tradition of gentleman and scholarly spies. Maybe that was the reason for their inefficiency - but could you see that it could go from bad to terrible?